Boehner leans left, downplays Tea Party influence

Efforts to halt ObamaCare nixed, amnesty top priority

During this interview (excerpted) with ABC’s Diane Sawyer, Speaker John Boehner puts distance between Congressional Republicans and the Tea Party that helped put many of them in their cushy D.C. offices.

Boehner went out of his way to downplay the influence of the Tea Party on Congress, although at least 51 members of the Tea Party caucus won re-election and will return for the 113th Congress in January. 

“This has been the most misreported story of my two years’ tenure. We don’t have a Tea Party caucus to speak of in the House,” Boehner said. “All of us who were elected in 2010 were supported by the Tea Party.”

“These are ordinary Americans who’ve taken a more active role in their government. They want solutions, but we’ve all come a long way over the last two years. I think we all understand each other a lot better.”

Boehner also revealed that a “comprehensive, bipartisan immigration overhaul” [more correctly known as amnesty] would be a top priority of his agenda during the upcoming congressional session. “This issue has been around far too long,” he said. “A comprehensive approach is long overdue, and I’m confident that the president, myself, others can find the common ground to take care of this issue once and for all.”

“What Republicans need to learn is how do we speak to all Americans. You know, not just the people who look like us and act like us, but how do we speak to all Americans,” Boehner said.

Americans, regardless of what we “look like,” don’t need an “immigration overhaul.”  Our laws need to be respected and obeyed, Mr. Speaker. Legal citizens — of either party or any nationality — can speak to each other without your instruction. We all belong here.

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41 Responses to Boehner leans left, downplays Tea Party influence

  1. LD 19 Committeeman says:

    As a longtime conservative Republican elected precinct committeeman I am getting damn tired of working to elect those who end up betraying us immediately after they are elected. Here in Arizona, I’ve seen it repeatedly with Kyl, McCain, and Flake. It now looks like we are getting an McAmnesty waffle from Bill Montgomery. Although I like David Schweikert, I am seriously concerned about his McCain allies as well. Kyl was dismissive of us, other than to work our asses off to get him in office and then he poked us in the eye. Now NJ Gov. Chris Christie is taking an arm-in-arm beach stroll with Obama and Boehner is telling us how to talk, while he promotes amnesty. Let me remind you that we have always had immigrants in our country. Those who came legally and wanted to become part of this great nation as citizens have always been welcomed. My own grandparents were among them. They got off the boat and kissed the ground. My grandmother told me their proudest day was when they became citizens. They worked hard, made no demands, but rather raised patriotic children. I’m sick of hearing about immigration overhauls to accommodate and reward lawlessness. It is all about winning votes. How about educating people to the fact that we are a nation of laws and they must be respected? Republicans are starting to sound like liberals. After over 20 years, I will not run for PC again. I have no home in the Republican Party. My wife and I will be reregistering as Independents this week. Since that is not an organized party, there will be no expectations for us to donate our time, sweat or money. I regret to say, I’ve had it!

    • garvan says:

      LD19, I quit the GOP in 1994 after the Republican leadership castrated the incoming freshman conservatives.

      The GOP action that angered me the most was when Trent Lott prevented the Senate from convicting Bill Clinton after the House had impeached him.

      At the time I thought it would be possible to form a conservative 3rd party, but history has proven such a 3rd party will not be successful.

      In my view, our only shot at taking back our country from the liberals of both parties is to infiltrate the GOP and do a hostile takeover.

      You see, the GOP already has a huge machine in place, not to mention a treasury and an army of foot soldiers willing to walk precincts, man phone banks, lick envelopes, etc.

      Our task now is to get rid of Boehner, McConnell, Priebus and the rest of their RINO Beltway/Northeastern Corridor ilk and install conservatives in leadership positions.

      Under conservative control, the GOP will nominate true conservative candidates.

      They in turn will articulate true conservative positions. This in turn will motivate liberty lovers to turn out at election time.

      We ignore at our peril the reason so many voters either stayed home or else did go to the polls but didn’t bother to vote for Romney: He offered lots of pabulum but hardly any red meat.

    • garvan says:

      It will have to be the voters in Boehner’s district who knock him out in the next primary.

      Same with the next senatorial primary in Kentucky.

    • garvan says:

      This link is to the very best editorial I’ve seen since moron voters reinstalled our first Marxist president for another term.

      http://www.vote29.com/newmyblog/archives/42538

  2. Doc says:

    LD-19-PLEASE DON’T DO THAT! I considered this too. Think it thru!

    On a “bonehead boehner” note, here’s THIS from Breitbart:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/08/Boehner-denies-Ryan-Republican-leader

    …coward/idiot speeker of ???

  3. eubykdisop says:

    ANOTHER excellent post by “Seeing Red AZ”! Right to the heart of what it is that we most need to address post election! Good work, SRAZ!

    What we have is the left seeking to interpret the elctions in such a way that Conservatism and Americanism are portrayed as failing, the solution, naturally, being the “One World”, “New World Order” agenda! As they say about computers, “Garbage in, garbage out!”

    Boehner has now proven, beyond doubt, that he is firmly aligned with the left! What can we actually DO about that, since Boehner was just re-elected after running unopposed? We can contact our Republican members of the House and let them know that we want Boehner replaced as Speaker by someone more Conservative! I did that yesterday! How about you?

    • Doc says:

      euby-FANTASTIC IDEA! Not that I believe that anyone in AZ other than Schwiekert, Franks, & maybe McSally if she wins will ACTUALLY DO anything, but I’ll call Gosar…

      • eubykdisop says:

        Good show, Doc! I’m sure that we can collectively come up with more effective and more potent strategies but the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step! This is something which we can DO and we can do it immediately!

  4. eubykdisop says:

    Let’s review some history!

    Both Democrats AND Republicans have busied themselves with picking navel lint for the past couple of decades while illegal aliens flooded across the border. Ronald Reagan DID approve an actual amnesty!

    Now that we have millions of illegal aliens in the country, many voting fraudulently, we are told that we have no choice but to cater to the political demands of that “demographic”!

    So first Democrats and sympathetic Republicans create a “demographic” and then say that we are compelled to cater to it’s demands. That, folks, is “One World”, “New World Order” at work!

    • Pima Pal says:

      euby, I knew you would notice the new word of the moment, “Demographic.” It means amnesty.

    • garvan says:

      What Reagan approved was called the Bracero program.

      Under it, agricultural workers from Mexico were given a permit to come over, work the harvest, and then go home.

      Today the agricultural workers have to pay a coyote $1500 or more to help them sneak across the border.

      This in turn means it takes their first couple months of work just to get even. This motivates them to stay longer.

      Because they can’t freely come and go for agricultural work, they stay permanently, not wanting to risk another border crossing and not wanting to shell out another two grand to a coyote.

      And once they’re here permanently they avail themselves of federal laws that say they’re entitled to free medical care and all the rest of the goodies we taxpayers have to pay for.

      When I was growing up, my family had a farm down near Goodyear. (We grew watermelons. My “pay” was all the melons I could sell in our neighborhood near Encanto Park.)

      At harvest time the Mexican “labor contractor” would always get us enough workers, even if he had to send across the border for them. After the harvest they all went home to Mexico to be with their families.

      A new bracero program will solve two problems for Republicans:

      1) It will provide affordable and temporary labor at harvest time, and

      2) it will enable our side not to appear xenophobic at election time.

      Your thoughts?

      • eubykdisop says:

        First, garvan, allow me to offer this:

        “In 1986, Reagan signed an immigration reform bill, the first in 20 years, that legalized the status for 1.7-million people.”

        “Some defenders of the law dispute the term “amnesty.”

        “But here’s how Edwin Meese, Reagan’s former attorney general, characterizes what his boss did: “President Reagan called this what it was: amnesty. Indeed, look up the term ‘amnesty’ in Black’s Law Dictionary, and you’ll find it says, ‘the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.'”

        http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/jan/06/rudy-giuliani/yep-reagan-did-the-a-word/

        Wikipedia says this about Reagan’s bill:

        “granted amnesty to certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants. ”

        “granted amnesty to illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously. About three million illegal immigrants were granted amnesty.”

        My thoughts are that we should stick to the plan of first requiring that the border actually be secured! I don’t think that we should back off on that one inch! Enforce existing laws before even thinking about making new ones!

      • garvan says:

        Euby, you’re correct about the Reagan amnesty. I was talking about the BRACERO program.

        Reagan’s amnesty was then. We have to focus on the now.

        What would you prefer, a continuing stream of fence jumpers or legal workers with permits to come, work and return?

      • eubykdisop says:

        LOL! False choice, garvan! :-)

        What I would prefer is that we secure the border which, despite Liberal claims to the contrary, is absolutely possible to do.

        Next, we should give illegal aliens three months to voluntarily leave the country. After that we WILL round them up and deport them. Liberals claim that we can’t do that either but we absolutely can. It doesn’t make sense to do that, however, until the border is actually secured so that they can’t get back in!

        Next, we should look at able-bodied people on welfare or people who are unemployed and see if they can do the work. If the wage is too low, then the Capitalist rules of supply and demand will apply. That might cause the price of produce to go up BUT most of the cost of produce is generated by middlemen, not farmers! If the produce rots on the shelf, there will be an automatic price correction dictated by the market. THAT is Capitalism at work!

        Lastly, we should protect American growers from unfair foreign competition. Many apple and strawberry growers, for example, have gotten out of agriculture because they can’t compete with cheap imports, NOT because they can’t find labor to pick the crop! Even if they get the crop to market they can’t realize a profit because of being undersold by foreign imports.

      • garvan says:

        The Arizona-Mexico border is almost 400 miles long.

        A fence will not work unless there are guards ALL ALONG ITS LENGTH to make sure aliens do not scale it, jack it up to crawl under it, or tunnel beneath it.

        There is no way the Marxist president will EVER authorize such manpower to guarding our southern border.

        Nor is the liberal-dominated Congress EVER going to deport those here illegally, no matter how long and loudly we demand they do so.

        The only way to prevent illegal entry is to provide a legal means for seasonal workers to enter and go home.

      • eubykdisop says:

        I’m sorry, garvan, you’re simply wrong!

        I am an American. Do NOT tell me what cannot be done! Not only has this country done the “impossible” countless times but I have done what I was told was impossible to do countless times in my own life.

        Let me leave you with this thought:

        Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.” – Matthew 19:26

        We come to realize the Truth of that statement through unceasing prayer and undiscourageable effort!

      • garvan says:

        I’m not wrong, Euby. It would be impossible to build a wall capable of keeping Mexicans out.

        When I was in the Army stationed in Germany, I spent time in Berlin when the the communists were building the infamous Wall.

        Sophisticated as the double wall was with its death strip in the middle, it still couldn’t function without automatic trip wire-fired machine guns–as if any administration here would ever permit such a lethal thing.

        But formidable as the Berlin Wall was, it could not function without a HUGE contingent of men, probably at least 20,000 per shift, or 60,000 per 24 hours.

        No U.S. administration is going to station that many soldiers on our southern border which includes not just AZ, but also NM, TX and CA.

        We have to face the fact that Anglos are not reproducing in our country, but Mexicans are. Soon they will simply outnumber us.

        For example, several formerly safe Congressional districts have gone for the first time to Mexican challengers, beating out such people as Mary Bono and Connie Mack.

        The time has come to start bringing Hispanics over to our side.

        As individuals they tend to be entrepreneurial, conservative and religious. We must exploit those characteristics.

        Those are the demographic facts over which we have no control.

      • eubykdisop says:

        I beg to differ, garvan. You are, in fact, wrong.

        Let me state again. I am an American. Do NOT tell me what is impossible. America is the country which makes the “impossible” happen. I have made the “impossible” happen in my life. Scripture tell us that with God, all things are possible. So might I suggest that you drop “impossible” from your vocabulary.

        You have made another statement which is factually wrong, garvan. Anglos are reporoducing in our country. If you examine the abortion statistics, however, you will see that the majority of abortions are performed on Caucasian women. So while Obama promotes abortion of caucasian Americans, he is at the same time promoting illegal immigration!

        Again, you are flat wrong on another count. Demographics has nothing whatsoever to do with it. It’s about principles, regardless of demographic group. Conservatives represent the principles of governance which have proven to be best. We attract people to Conservatism based upon principles of governance and not upon catering to the whims of special interest groups.

      • garvan says:

        Anglos have, percentage-wise, more abortions per-capita than do Hispanics, even though 79% of all Planned Barrenhood abortuaries are located in minority neighborhoods.

        Euby says that with God, all things are possible. Correct.

        I would take it one step further: God remains in control.

        Perhaps this is the reason some are saying that the reelection of the Marxist is God’s punishment on a nation that has systematically expunged Him from all aspects of public life.

        Demographics certainly is part of the equation, but you are correct about principles.

        If the GOP had picked a principled conservative as their candidate, instead of the Massachusetts liberal, I suspect several million more conservative voters would have voted.

        The problem is that the GOP establishment hates conservatives.
        It seems like these Beltway GOP elitists would rather lose an election than nominate a conservative.

        But getting back to the theme of this thread, it’s time we let conservative Hispanics know they’re welcome at our table.

        This is why conservatives have to be able to infiltrate and take over the GOP.

        At this point in time, a third party is not politically feasible.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Hispanics have always been welcome at our table, garvan. The idea that they are not or have not been welcome is leftist Democrat propaganda! What Conservatives will NOT do is implement policies which are damaging to our country to appease misguided special interest groups. The fact is that illegal alien amnesty hurts Latino U. S. citizens as much as it hurts all other U. S. citizens. What we need to do is to debunk the lefist propaganda in that regard.

        A third party with it’s own presidential candidate might not be able to win BUT it could force the Republican establishment to the right by way of cutting deals with that candidate to drop out of the race and not take votes from the designated Republican candidate. That’s how politics works!

    • garvan says:

      We tried the 3rd party approach with Ross Perot.

      This got us Bill Clinton.

      Many of us thought that even though we lost, this would push the GOP leadership in our direction.

      It did not.

      In fact, in the postmortems being done by the GOP in the wake of this last election show them blaming the Tea Party!

      The Beltway/Northeastern Corridor RINOs who control the GOP remain as intransigent as ever.

      Some people feel the game is over, that the forces of evil won and that we lost.

      Watch this video for one man’s view of the death of our culture.

      http://www.slcelections.com/Pdf%20Docs/2012%20General/GEMS%20ELECTION%20SUMMARY%20REPORT.pdf

      • eubykdisop says:

        Let’s see how your thinking compares with that of Thomas Alva Edison, inventor of the light bulb, garvan!

        “He began carbonizing materials to be used for the filament. He tested the carbonized filaments of every plant imaginable, including baywood, boxwood, hickory, cedar, flax, and bamboo. He even contacted biologists who sent him plant fibers from places in the tropics. Edison acknowledged that the work was tedious and very demanding, especially on his workers helping with the experiments. He always recognized the importance of hard work and determination.”

        “Before I got through,” he recalled, “I tested no fewer than 6,000 vegetable growths, and ransacked the world for the most suitable filament material.”

        “The electric light has caused me the greatest amount of study and has required the most elaborate experiments,” he wrote. “I was never myself discouraged, or inclined to be hopeless of success. I cannot say the same for all my associates.”

        You’re too quick to throw in the towel after one failed attempt and you’re too ready to tell us what CAN’T be done! If Edison had your attitude, we would still be using candles for light today!

      • garvan says:

        I’m not throwing in the towel, Euby. I’m just calling for a change of tactics and direction.

        Regarding Edison, don’t forget that in spite of his first successful light bulb, he committed the biggest error of his life by ignoring Niccola Tesla’s alternating current.

      • eubykdisop says:

        I beg to differ, garvan.

        You say that if one attempt is made at something and it fails, move on to something else. There is not one accomplishment America has had that was attained that way, from the light bulb to aviation.

        Your comment about Edison is not at all relevant. The fact remains that Edison invented the light bulb and any issues with Tessla and AC don’t negate that nor does it negate the fact Edison stuck with it, trying 6,000 times to find filament material that worked.

      • garvan says:

        Okay, Euby- what’s YOUR plan to take back America from the leftists?

  5. Maggie says:

    Michelle Malkin notes the massive layoffs within days of Obama’s reelection:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2012/11/08/you-were-warned-obamas-layoff-bomb-goes-boom/

  6. Jeff Wahlen says:

    Limbaugh suggests total amnesty with one caveat; all is forgiven AND you cannot vote for 25 years. If the Dems offer amnesty for the granting of an earned opportunity, then immigrants as a voting block will not matter, right? Give ‘em the opportunity of America. And, after 25 years, you can vote. All illegals, total amnesty but no voting for 25 years. After 25 years, welcome to the election process.

    • catsclaw says:

      Add no government assistance and you might have something.

    • Dennis O'Brien says:

      That is patently untrue, Jeff. I am a longtime, committed and daily Limbaugh listener. He has not said anything of the sort. What are you smoking that would cause you to misconstrue the facts?
      Rush Limbaugh believes in the rule of law and our nation’s right to a secure border. Our LEGAL immigration policies are among the world’s most generous and welcoming.

      For some enlightenment, I suggest you watch this excellent overview on immigration:

      • CD9 says:

        Numbers USA has become the pirah of Immigration. they gave Santorum a D– then he was the only one in the field that answered what they wanted to hear so they endorsed him, OMG. they sung the aria of Jeff McFlake, all of a sudden, someone else they gave a failing grade to last year. Numbers as an organization to believe in anylonger I say no, they are out for themselves too. The video is good, but they stood behind horrible amnesty supporters.

  7. Kathy says:

    Republicans have no leadership – Boehner, McConnell always cave to the Dems. Why not a Conserative party and let the RINO’s go to the Dems, that’s where they are at home. When McCain endorsed Romney I thought oh know those many months ago. I’m tired of the Republicans being “nice” guys, I’m tired of the bendovers, I’m tired of Conservatives getting blamed for the establishments decision. Conservatism needs to be taught daily because it beats liberalism every time. Conservatism = freedom, liberalism – slavery.

  8. CD9 says:

    McConnell has never been known as a real conservative, Boehner has forgotten what post he was elected to serve. SPEAKER OF CONSERVATIVE HOUSE. Harry Reid sure has not, he knows he ws elected to lead the Liberal Senate. Everytime the Republican’s has lost they rush to compromise, did they ever think it was because they did not select a more Conservative Candidate? The Tea Party put someone up agaisnt him this year and lost, the Ohio TP need to do better in 2014.

  9. Frankly Speaking says:

    “I’m confident that the president, myself, others…..”
    Boehner can’t even speak English correctly and he says Republicans need to learn how to speak…??.

    It’s actually, “I’m confident the president, others and I” —– not “myself” which is a reflexive or stressed pronoun, which means that it should be used in conjunction with the subject pronoun “I,” not instead of the object pronoun “me.”

    In oyr powerful position, you should be taking some speaking leassons yourself, Mr. Boner.

    http://www.englishrules.com/writing/2005/me-myself-or-i/

    • Doc says:

      “Never teach a coward proper english. It wastes your time &…” oh…that’s all…it just wastes your time & enuff-a that’s been wasted by all th’ R.I.N.O.’s we helped get RE-elected…

  10. Tea Partier says:

    While Boehner calls for action to avert the “fiscal cliff, “ Obama hops a plane for Cambodia and Thailand. More non-essential foreign travel as he forestalls any meaningful action. Nothing changes with Obama. The only thing changing is Republicans are moving to the left. Within days of winning reelection, which many of us worked our butts off to help them achieve, they are selling us out without a second thought. McBoehner makes me sick!

    I fully understand the comment posted here by LD19 Committeeman. We have been used and abused, and it’s just days after the election.

  11. Sgt. Preston says:

    While Boehner calls for action to avert the “fiscal cliff, “ Obama hops a plane for Cambodia and Thailand. More non-essential foreign travel as he forestalls any meaningful action. Nothing changes with Obama. The only thing changing is Republicans are moving to the left. Within days of winning reelection, which many of us worked our butts off to help them achieve, they are selling us out without a second thought. McBoehner’s disparagement of Paul Ryan was also rude, arrogant and self-aggrandizing.

  12. eubykdisop says:

    Now, fellow Conservatives, the question is what are we going to DO about Boehner? What we share among ourselves here isn’t going to affect Boehner one iota. We need to take some form of tangible action!

    I have suggested contacting Arizona Republicans representing us in the U. S. House and letting THEM know how we feel about Boehner and that we want to see him gone from leadership! No, it ain’t an atomic bomb BUT it IS action instead of just talk! Who among us is willing to take that small but tangible action? Anyone besides Doc?

    • Hunter says:

      I agree and will do that as well.

      We need new GOP Congressional leadership that has a conservative vision, are tough negotiators, and can communicate effectively with the American people.

      Boehner and McConnell are the wrong people.

      Our seats in the House of Representatives are now fairly safe. If we insist on big budget cuts and not increase the debt ceiling if we don’t get them, it can be sold to voters in GOP districts as saving our children from crushing debt. If we do it “for the Children” it should be a slam-dunk, right? ;-)

      • eubykdisop says:

        Good for you, Hunter! You are willing to take ACTION and that makes you one of the people who is going to make a difference!

        Your strategy about debt is as good as any I’ve heard! Suggest that to your Congressman when you contact him! You never know what might catch fire! What we DO know is that if we DO nothing that NOTHING will change! ACTION is what is called for!

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