LDS Church sends mixed messages on homosexuality?

Today is Sunday — a good day to talk about faith.

Leaders in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have unveiled a new website titled, “Love One Another: A Discussion on Same-Sex Attraction,” which encourages compassionate discussions about homosexuality. The website was two years in development.

Although senior Mormon leaders maintain they haven’t changed the church’s official teaching that marriage is only between a man and a woman and that same-sex relationships are sinful, the website says that members should be “loving and respectful” toward homosexuals, while appealing to such Mormons to stay in the church.

“Reconciling same-sex attraction with a religious life can present an especially trying dilemma,” church leaders write. “Anyone who lives in both worlds can attest to its difficulty. But with faith, love and perspective, it can be done. Same-sex attraction itself is not a sin, but yielding to it is,” the website states.

In the presentation, church leaders say Mormons with such attractions who are not in same-sex relationships can have “full fellowship in the church,” including holding the priesthood and participating in temple rituals — a privilege reserved solely for church members in good standing. The church said it would no longer “necessarily advise” gays to “marry those of the opposite sex.” In the past, excommunication from the church was routine for those who confessed to homosexuality.

The LDS church faced unwarranted criticism after leaders helped fund and lead the fight for California’s traditional marriage initiative known as Proposition 8 — a constitutional ban on same sex marriage that voters adopted in 2008 after the state Supreme Court ruled that homosexual Californians could marry.  But by 2012, the church took no public role in state ballot measures on the issue.

The church was correct to hold firm to its religious convictions in 2008. Our faiths are not menu boards in a cafeteria, where the selection de jour takes front stage. This was the unequivocal position of the LDS Church in 2008, as it referred to “The Devine Institution of Marriage,” including these words:  The Church has a single, undeviating standard of sexual morality: intimate relations are proper only between a husband and a wife united in the bonds of matrimony.”

A bible verse posted on the new website, is central to the more tolerant position: “We must not judge anyone for the feelings they experience,” church authorities write.  “A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you.” John 13:34

Conspicuously missing are the numerous biblical prohibitions against homosexuality.

Although it’s tempting, we won’t even touch this line from the website: “We live in an imperfect world. Not all the pieces of the puzzle seem to fit. But having an eternal perspective and believing in a just and merciful God gives us hope that all will work out in the end.”

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25 Responses to LDS Church sends mixed messages on homosexuality?

  1. Ann says:

    No doubt that homosexuals do not choose the attraction, but the choice to engage in sexual activity with the same sex person can re-inforce it. There is an old book called “Dual Attraction” by the Kinsey Institute which seems to say that same sex attraction modifies on its own.

    It seems that the task of the culture is to find out how all types of sexual attractions develop and help those who wish change to do so rather than condemning the persons who experience other than adult heterosexual attractions.

    However, marriage should not be between any but man and woman.

    • diogidog says:

      OMG ! A cult that condoned plural marriage until recently can actually pontificate on gay sex? I cannot quit laughing …
      Birds of a feather …

  2. Orion says:

    Question? How can we be “respectful” of that which the bible clearly states is an “abomination” to the Lord?

    When our religious institutions bow at the altar of Political Correctness, it’s very disheartening.

  3. Kimball says:

    The LDS Church is in flux. In 1978, after receiving a “revelation” from the Lord who has “heard our prayers,” then Church President Spencer Kimball allowed previously excluded black men to serve in the priesthood. President Kimball wrote: “He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood if they meet the established standards for worthiness.”

    At that time it was clear that continuing to exclude black men from the priesthood was a blatant bigotry that no longer worked. Church President Thomas Monson is no fool. Now decades later, he is bending to popular culture. I’m just surprised he hasn’t received a “revelation.”

  4. Frankly Speaking says:

    In 2012 the Church took no position on same-sex “marriage” because Mitt Romney was running for president. It’s called pragmatism.

  5. Army Of One says:

    That line from the church’s website that “all will work out in the end” is hilarious! Plus, it sounds like a drag queen emulating Scarlet O’Hara. “Tomorr’a is another day…”

  6. cowboy2010 says:

    The title really says it all.

  7. eubykdisop says:

    I have been expecting a move like this from the LDS Church ever since it joined forces with the radical left to oust Russell Pearce. What do you think is going to be coming when the LDS Chruch is in harmony with the likes of Randy Parraz?

    • Disappointed says:

      I have had the same thoughts.

      No religious institution should hesitate to speak out on moral issues. We get equivocation from other quarters. I want to be able to count on the fact that my church isn’t holding a finger to the wind. The LDS church was absolutely correct to enter the battle over California’s Prop. 8. Cindy and Meghan McCain felt it was their business to promote the homosexual agenda, even appearing in the pro-same sex marriage NOH8 ads. Their taped mouth, painted face photos are here:

      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/20/cindy-mccain-noh8-photo-m_n_430004.html

      If these McBozos can appear in favor of the proposition, why shouldn’t the Church unapologetically send a clear moral message? I was/am proud of its involvement in 2008, and definitely question the “wisdom” of this decision.

      • eubykdisop says:

        The LDS Church is no more immune from infiltration and attacks from within than is any other institution. That is how the Commies operate, Disappointed.

  8. Hagar says:

    As a former Mormon bishop and one who gave considerable funds to the Prop 8 California initiative when asked to by my church leader, I was very confused by this recent announcement. I too wonder if the Church isn’t bending over (no pun intended) to ingratiate itself to left-wing causes just to support its missionary efforts, its lifeblood for growth. First the pro-amnesty for illegals position, it’s not very subtle efforts to unseat Russell Pearce (also a Mormon) and now a “reassessment” of its position on homosexuality. Something is up and I’m not too pleased about it.

    • eubykdisop says:

      “EXCLUSIVE: National Council of La Raza board unanimously approves same-sex marriage resolution”

      “By Michael K. Lavers on June 22, 2012″

      “Board members of the country’s largest Latino civil rights organization earlier this month unanimously passed a resolution in support of marriage rights for same-sex couples.”

      “The Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund President Thomas A. Saenz has backed same-sex marriage. His organization has not only represented people with HIV in discrimination cases, but filed amicus briefs in support of lawsuits that challenge California’s Proposition 8 and other states’ prohibitions on nuptials for gays and lesbians.”

      “The Texas chapter of the League of United Latin American Citizens earlier this month also passed a same-sex marriage resolution during their annual convention. LULAC National President Margaret Moran joined Murguía, Saenz and other civil rights leaders who applauded Obama’s public support of nuptials for gays and lesbians.”

      https://www.washingtonblade.com/2012/06/22/execlusive-national-council-of-la-raza-board-unanimously-approves-same-sex-marriage-resolution/

      Leftists take an incremental approach, Hagar. Getting the LDS Church behind “immigration reform” was the foot in the door. You can see what that is tied to. “Get the cat by the tail and you’ve got the whole cat!”

      • Disappointed says:

        Startling information you included here, euby! Now let me add some to give you even more to think about:

        Janet Murguia, the President and CEO of the National Council of the very racist La Raza has a twin sister named Mary. This is where Mary works.

        http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/content/view_seniority_list.php?pk_id=0000000035

        She was appointed to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals by Barack Obama. And guess who nominated her for the post? Our good ol’ RINO Sen. Jon Kyl. He even attended Mary Murguia’s investiture with his best buddy Janet Napolitano! We can’t keep allowing ourselves to be snowed by our political or even faith leaders. There is too much at stake, namely the future of this country and that of our families
        .

      • eubykdisop says:

        Excellent work, Disappointed! It’s important to get this sort of stuff out there so people can get a better grasp of what’s REALLY going on!

        I suspect that you might find this website of interest:

        http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/default.asp

        It addresses the networks of liberal activities across different issues broken down into groups, individuals, funders, etc.. See what you find of interest to you there!

        Of course, my contention is that this is all tied together by the “One World”, “New World Order” agenda. All of the apparently disparate pieces of the puzzle fit together perfectly when viewed in the light of that paradigm!

  9. eubykdisop says:

    The above article states: “Conspicuously missing are the numerous biblical prohibitions against homosexuality.”

    Here is an example of what happens today if the Holy Bible is referenced regarding homosexualtiy:

    “Obama administration investigating sergeant who said the Bible condemns homosexuality”

    “by Kirsten Andersen
    Fri Dec 07, 2012″

    “HUNTSVILLE, December 7, 2012, (LifeSiteNews.com) – The U.S. Department of Education (DOE) has launched a federal investigation over a conversation between a Huntsville JROTC instructor and a lesbian student about the Bible and homosexuality.”

    “Last April, Virgil Grissom High School student Taylor Sisk, 15, asked a local homosexual activist to file a complaint on her behalf after 1st Sgt. Lynn Vanzandt allegedly told her that he believed the Bible says homosexuality is a sin.”

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/obama-administration-investigating-sargeant-who-said-the-bible-condemns-hom

  10. Dennis O'Brien says:

    Although I’m not a Mormon, I have several friends who are. I respect their deep commitment to their faith. But I view religion, any religion, as providing a moral path of guidance, not succumbing to the latest tantrum of political correctness. This new stance is a squishy step that bends biblical truth to gain support. It makes me very uneasy that anyone in authority in this, or any, church thinks this is a righteous move.

  11. Pima Pal says:

    The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) was officially founded on April 6, 1830 in Palmyra, New York. It is only 182 years old. Mainstream Christian denominations date this as their 2,012 year. Judaism dates back even further to 5,774. The religion was 3,762 years old when Jesus was born. Mormons are still just feeling their way. This is a major screw-up.

  12. East Valley PC says:

    What do you all expect? The First Presidency of the LDS Church is held by Thomas S. Monson, who is 85!

    Get a clue, folks! They are doing their best under the circumstances. This is a list of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and their ages:

    1. Boyd Kenneth Packer, age 88
    2. L. Tom Perry, age 90
    3. Russell M. Nelson, age 88
    4. Dallin H. Oaks, age 80
    5. Russell Ballard, age 84
    6. Richard G. Scott., age 84
    7. Robert D. Hales, age 80
    8. Jeffrey R. Holland, age 72
    9. David A. Bednar, age 60
    10. Quentin L. Cook, age 72
    11. D. Todd Christofferson, age 67
    12. Neil L. Andersen, age 61

    If Bednar, Andersen and Christofferson are the pups on this team, that should tell you something.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Please forgive me, East Valley PC, but I’m not clear on what you are implying about age and how it relates to the issue at hand.

      • East Valley PC says:

        Sorry for the lack of clarity. The point I was attempting to make is that these are mostly very old men who live insular lives and yet are trying to delve into the hip, new, politically correct craze of mainstreaming deviancy…and failing miserably. They should stick to what they know best, which is instilling morality within their flock.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Ah! Got it! Thanks, East Valley PC!

  13. patriotmom says:

    For people of faith, there can be no equivocation on this topic- homosexuality is sin and is considered so by God. No matter what the Nobama administration does to intimidate us, we will stand firm on our right to religious freedom. Peter warns us in First Peter 4:12-19 that we will suffer for our faith and it has never been more real than now. Gays represent a tiny fraction of Americans yet have managed to unduly influence our culture to the extent that conservative churches are afraid to speak the truth.

    On a side note, gays had best enjoy that wedding cake while they may. A growing Muslim presence in this country may mean the end to the very diversity that allows gays the freedom to push their agenda onto the majority.

    • LD 7 PC says:

      Let’s not forget that AIDS has its roots in the anonymous sex and depravity within the “bathhouses” of the homosexual communities in San Francisco, New York, Chicago and other cities. Mormon leaders are trying to whitewash that which is indelible fact, by saying you’re OK if you remain chaste. That stipulation flies in the face of human nature. They can’t have it both ways. Regardless of how the MSM, Hollywood, Broadway and the teacher’s unions try to sell this, it is not an “alternative lifestyle.”

  14. eubykdisop says:

    There is an interesting dynamic developing. First, we have this:

    “Analysis: Latinos are the fastest growing group in the Mormon Church”

    “BY DR. VICTORIA M. DEFRANCESO SOTO”

    “Today immigration has become the most visible tie that binds Latinos and Mormons. The Church of Latter-day Saints and many of its prominent members have been at the forefront of promoting sensible and humane immigration policies.”

    “Latin America has the highest growth of Mormons in the world. In Mexico there are over one million members and a total of 12 temples. There are Mormons and accompanying religious structures throughout Latin America with the exception of Cuba. Within the United States, Latinos now make up the fastest growing segment within the Church. From 2000 to 2010 the number of Spanish language congregations more than doubled from 377 to 760.”

    http://nbclatino.tumblr.com/post/17547041869/analysis-latinos-are-the-fastest-growing-group-in-the

    Next we have the fact, as mentioned above, that organizations like La Raza, LULAC and MALDEF support homosexual “marriage”.

    Lastly, with Latinos being the fastest growing group in the LDS Church, they are going to have a greater impact on the direction which the Church takes.

    The question is how the pulls of these various forces and factors will resolve. What will be the net result?

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