Two school shooting threats in Arizona in past day
Today the National Rifle Association’s CEO Wayne LaPierre announced that former Arkansas Congressman Asa Hutchison, will lead an NRA program that will develop a model school security plan that relies on armed volunteers.
At a Washington. D.C. press conference, LaPierre, said that “the next Adam Lanza,” the man responsible for last week’s brutal massacre in Newtown, Connecticut that killed 26, including 20 6-and-7-year children — is planning an attack on another school.
LaPierre also placed blame on video games, movies and music videos, which routinely expose children to a violent culture. “In a race to the bottom, many conglomerates compete with one another to shock, violate, and offend every standard of civilized society, by bringing an even more toxic mix of reckless behavior and criminal cruelty right into our homes,” he said.
Mass murderer Lanza was reported to be addicted to playing violent video games.
LaPierre’s views are substantiated by these two news reports emanating right here in Arizona — within the past day.
A 16-year-old Mesa female reportedly has been arrested in conjunction with a foiled school shooting plot. She was taken into custody after her threat was posted on a YouTube channel owned by a transgender community in Toronto, Canada. The teen, who has a history of mental health problems, told officers she planned the attack in advance of last Friday’s school carnage. The owner of the channel contacted Toronto police who then worked in concert with Arizona law enforcement and tracked down the teen who had plans to assassinate her schoolmates at Red Mountain High and kill herself. She will be charged as a juvenile, with one count of computer tampering and one count of threatening and intimidating. Under the circumstances, the charges sound like a slap on the wrist.
Prescott’s Daily Courier reports Yavapai County Sheriff’s Office deputies arrested a man for disorderly conduct and disruption of a school after he entered Rimrock High School Thursday, and made references to the recent mass shooting in Connecticut. Deputies say the man, who also admitted a history of mental problems, came into the office requesting to remove two students without providing their names or proof of legal connection. The staff said the man became agitated when they refused to release any students to his care and he began making references to the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass killing.
LaPierre, whose organization numbers 4.3 million members, says another school shooter is waiting in the wings. “The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun”
The entire transcript of LaPierre’s speech can be read here.
Since the Newtown massacre, bulletproof backpacks sold by companies like BulletBlocker.com are seeing quadruple the number of sales.
This is a short but excellent video worth clicking on:
http://www.youtube.com/user/NRAVideos
Braveheart,
I belonged to NRA since my dad bought my first membership when I was 16 years old. After they endorsed John McCain, I joined Gun Owners of America.
http://gunowners.org/
While the NRA was silent after the horrific Newtown murders, GOA spoke out against Obama’s attempts to gut the Second Amendment and leave law abiding American citizens defenseless. The criminals among us will always be armed. We better be, also.
While Obama wipes tears from his eyes after this wholesale slaughter of innocent little children and their school personnel, his actual actions were much different.
This Washington Guardian article details how two Justice Department programs that had provided more than $200 million to schools for training, security equipment and police resources over the last decade weren’t renewed in 2011 and 2012, and that a separate program that provided $800 million to put police officers inside the schools was also ended. Obama is a colossal liberal phony.
http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons-school-security-failure
How does th’ gubmint justify ANY REMARKS regarding gun legislation, when they supplied guns ILLEGALLY TO MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS?!?!?
…The Bible says, “Pull the BOARD out of your OWN EYE before pulling the splinter out of your nieghbors…”
…just sayin’…
Terrible response by the NRA. Once again they should be out in front of this instead of asking for armed guards in schools. There is no good reason for the Gun Show exemption. Gun shows should have the exact requirements as a retail gun shop and if they can’t meet them they can’t sell. Gun Show operators like Fiesta Bowl promoters are making Millions while laughing at the public.
There is no good reason for high capacity magazines. And I say this as a gun owner since I was 5 years old! The NRA has done great work and training but because of money and the threat to use it in politics has become a negative.
We look like fools in Arizona for all the guns sold at gun shows that have shown up in Mexico. Made some rich though
They should have said today that they are willing to be a part of any discussion on solutions to the terrible events that happened in Connecticut.
Unfortunately now Barry Obama, Chuck Schumer, and Diane Feinstein have outmaneuvered gun owners just like they have on taxes.
The guns that have supposedly “walked” across the border into Mexico got there under the auspices of the federal government, NOT gun shows! Have a talk with Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano, NOT legitimate gun show buyers and sellers. It sounds as though you’ve already been talking with loopy “loophole” John McCain.
The CRIMINALS aren’t giving up their Hi-Cap Magazines, so LAW ABIDING CITIZENS should? Gun Show sales by Lic. Firearms Dealers are handled the same as if the customer is in the store. PRIVATE SALES @ Gun shows are handled the same as any PRIVATE SALE.
Take a long walk off a short pier, Pinko!
MSM mocks, goes nuts at the NRA for suggesting putting police officers in schools. – Breitbart has an article today, Clinton had a $60 million plan in 2000 & it was being implemented – mum from the MSM. Obama cut $$ from program in 2010 and 2011 (another Breitbart article).
Armed guards in schools are necessary, and efficiently protect Israeli children. We should have no less here.
I disagree on both. The schools need teachers, not guards or more administrators and the situation here has nothing to do with Israel, except that our tax dollars may be paying for their guards in schools.
Many, many guns bought at gunshows made their way to Mexico and likely still do, nothing to do with the FNF debacle.
You’re a flaming left wing liberal, LOL! Come here to have some fun tweaking Conservatives? That’s okay. We don’t mind at all. It’s fun toasting Liberals!
Typical socio-lib…spoutin’ off @ th’ keyboard without so much as an attempt to have A SINGLE FACT STRAIGHT…perhaps another talk with th’ mentor mcstain…
LOL! Walks like a duck, Doc! ;-)
Westnash:
Now heres the plan, Pinko:
1 – Firearms safety training federally mandated in shcools.
2 – Universal military service with all qualified citizens part of the Reserve Militia. That way, all qualified adults will receive firearms training.
3 – Money to subsidize Planned Parenthood will be shifted to subsidize self-defense firearms training classes for qualified U. S. citizens.
4 – Monies going to La Raza and other leftist organization will be used instead to support rifle and pistol marksmanship and trap and skeet sports activities in schools and colleges.
5 – Money will be shifted from Obama’s Department of Injustice to create a new, specialized federal branch of law enforcement; School Security.
Liking it so far, Westnash?
I am the furthest thing from a liberal you will ever see. But your ideas will just insure that the Democrats (Siena, Giffords) will continue to Californiaze Arizona because they scare the hell out of the average citizen who watches Today in the morning and American Idol at night.
The Gun Show promoters, the Public Employees Union, and all the elected officials like your ideas though…they are laughing all the way to the bank!
ROFL! You’re as Pinko as they come, LOL!
When a Pinko gets busted, the FIRST thing they do is to tell you how they’re not a Pinko! Classic!
The NEXT thing they do is to tell you how Conservative ideas will get Democrats elected. You “progressives” have a recipe that you follow when you post at blogs?
That is followed by telling us how we are “scaring” people. Oh no! Poor little people! Getting SCARED! We can’t have that, now, can we! We must be SO careful to get it JUST right lest we blow it. Right?
No. Wrong!
All of that is a classic tactic, developed and pefected by the Commies, to nibble away incrementally, making “reasonable” arguments.
No, Pinko, we’re not voluntarily giving up ANYTHING! Got it?
A disarmed America! How is THAT for “scary”?
Your assessment of the “average citizen” as one who “watches Today in the morning and American Idol at night” reflects the disdain which Commies have always had for “decadent Capitalists”. Your “all the way to the bank” comment is another classic Commie slap at Capitalism, as if someone making a profit is a ripoff of “the people”.
Now run along and post at Daily Kos where you’ll be among your fellow “progressives”. That way you won’t get burned by any hot brass being ejected here at SRAZ!
Federal mandates are not good things. They restrict individual liberty and are often impossible to administer effectively.
Universal conscription is the ultimate federal mandate and tax; it does not produce a reliable military. On the other hand, requiring an honorable discharge from the military in order to vote would be a good idea, but it will probably not get sufficient popular support to ever be implemented. That would encourage voluntary enlistment in the military by people with an interest in being able to vote in elections. This would also support the idea of a local militia to protect communities from disorder. For example, Arizona considers an honorable discharge as evidence of firearms competency for getting a CCW. A “miltitia” doesn’t have to be organized to stop small numbers of individual criminals, but having it well distributed throughout the community will provide a good deterrent against criminals.
Also, money shifted from the justice department should be used to reduce the national debt rather than set up another useless (or even destructive) federal department like the Education or Homeland Security departments.
Government money should be shifted away from Planned Parenthood and La Raza, but it should go back to taxpayers in the form of less government debt or tax reductions rather than to fund another program. If taxes were reduced, tax payers could use the money to buy their own guns and ammo.
Having firearms training in schools makes as least as much sense as having sex education or driver education, so nobody should have any objection to that. It should be mandated and implemented at the state rather than federal level. I’m sure the NRA and other organizations would help school districts find qualified instructors.
Everyone with a CCW should be able to carry concealed weapons on school property. They have already undergone a background check, so they are law abiding citizens who can keep schools from being considered easy targets for murderers.
Many of the problems we have are from too much federal government and too many restrictions on good citizens. To the extent that a specific government policy is needed to override individuals making their own decisions, it is better done at the state rather than the federal level.
Ah, another Pinko shows up, LOL! Let’s shred the “arguments” of the Hunter Pinko, shall we? Always an easy task!
Pinko wrote: “Federal mandates are not good things.” Now that’s just stupid, LOL! Federal mandates are neither inherently good nor inherently evil any more than electricity is inherently good or inherently evil. It depends upon how the power is used.
Selective Service registration is federally mandated and without that we would not have a readily available pool of able bodied citizens to call upon in time of war, if needed.
What we see in Hunter Pinko’s statement is the modus operandi of Pinkos in Conservative blogs. They spout false Conservatism.
Hunter Pinko wrote: “Universal conscription is the ultimate federal mandate and tax; it does not produce a reliable military.” Really? And your proof for that is what? What is wrong with a federal tax?
Conservatives don’t oppose federal taxes. A federal government is necessary and as long as we have a federal government we must have federal taxes. What Conservatives oppose are the abuse and misuse of federal taxation.
The simplistic false Conservatism promulgated by Pinkos in Conservative blogs is designed to give them cover, to allow them to attack the foundations of Capitalism and of The United States of America while appearing to be promoting “Conservative” principles.
Hunter Pinko wrote: “Also, money shifted from the justice department should be used to reduce the national debt rather than set up another useless (or even destructive) federal department like the Education or Homeland Security departments.” Oh, oh, oh! What a classic Pinko false argument, LOL! Let’s look at the leftist tactics used in this one!
Again, Hunter Pinko tries to appear to be Conservative by talking about reducing the national debt. Conservatives are supposed to have a knee jerk reaction to that and shout, “Hear, hear!” But Hunter Pinko simply uses that as a springboard to launch into a leftist attack! Let’s look at what Hunter Pinko is REALLY saying here!
I wrote that we should shift money from Obama’s Department of Injustice to create a new, specialized federal branch of law enforcement; School Security. Of course, Pinkos like Hunter don’t want to see that. First, it would take money away from Hunter’s beloved Eric Holder and secondly it would bring armed federal security into schools. We know how Pinkos feel about firearms, LOL!
So how does Hunter Pinko attack this idea? Very simple. He attempts to equate it with something that Conservatives oppose. What, precisely is that? It’s the Department of Education and the Department of Homeland Security! But neither of those departments are inherently evil. What Conservatives don’t like about them is the manner in which Liberals have abused and misused them!
So when we unmask Hunter’s Pinko tactics, they are laughable! He seeks to use the abuses and misuses by the Liberal Obama administration to say, “See, the federal government is bad!” But the federal government is not inherently bad. It has been made bad, right now, by Hunter’s beloved Pinko friends, LOL!
Hunter Pinko wrote: “Government money should be shifted away from Planned Parenthood and La Raza, but it should go back to taxpayers in the form of less government debt or tax reductions rather than to fund another program.”
Again, we see Hunter Pinko attempting to elicit a knee jerk response from Conservatives. He thinks this will be effective because, like all Pinkos, he thinks Conservatives to be stupid and simplistic; a “fatal” error! Let’s look at what Hunter Pinko is REALLY saying here!
What he is saying is that he doesn’t want any money used to actually promote the use of guns among American citizens! He doesn’t want the sports of target shooting and trap and skeet shooting to be promoted. Why not? Because the more that Pinkos can make firearms alien to the American people, the better chance there is that they will support gun control! The more Americans who are active shooters, the less likely is public support for gun control!
This is a classic example of how Pinkos try to infiltrate Conservative blogs and attack from within. It’s modeled after the strategy and tactics used by the Communists. “Two steps forward, one step back!” Pinkos aren’t averse to yielding some ground IF it helps them to appear “patriotic” and IF it helps them to achive an important obejective. For example, look at how the homosexual activists, backed by the Pinkos, used “civil unions”!
First, the homosexual activists said that they would be satisfied with civil unions. Conservatives said that the homosexual activists would simply use civil unions as a stepping stone to homosexual “marriage”. Where the homosexual activists have attained civil unions, they are now seeking homosexual “marriage”. “Two steps forward, one step back!” Go after marriage. Take a step back to “civil unions”. This is how Pinkos work, incrementally!
It isn’t disagreement with my proposals which is the issue here. I’m open to other approaches. Conservatives can “brainstorm” to solve problems. What we see with Hunter, however, is the thinking, strategy and tactics which give him away as a Pinko. It’s not the content which is the tell, it’s the process!
Have a nice day, Hunter Pnko! :-)
Euby, you had better get back on your medication. Try to have a Merry Christmas.
Your medication seems to be working, Hunter, although at the cost of terrible side effects. Turns you Pink, LOL!
Merry Christmas to you too, Hunter! :-)
Wayne LaPierre’s press conference remarks were BRILLIANT! His list of all the things Americans protect with firearms was presented so clearly and logically, you could sense that left wingers everywhere were collapsing in a painful fit. LaPierre is right to call for a well-trained guard at every school rather than arming teachers. The last thing this country needs is an army of NEA wackos carrying guns. Just remember the “campers” at the Wisconsin state capital building in 2011–many of them couldn’t pass a security check to work at a bank, but they can easily get a job in a public school.
A boatload of Hollyweird celebs along with the usual wack-os such as Michael Moore are going ballistic over LaPierre’s suggestion. That proves he hit a nerve. As a mother, I have no problem at all with his suggestion.
Charging the young woman in Mesa as a juvenile and only with one count each of computer tampering and threatening and intimidating, is outrageous. Maybe they’ll charge her with intent to commit murder when she tries it again. The following time they can charge her as an adult and as a murderess. What absolute BS!!
Direct personal attacks against other posters, such as those by Little Euby, should not be condoned on here. Could it be a Trojan Horse sent in by the Democrats to try and show SEEING RED ARIZONA as a wacko publication catering to survivalists?
Unlike those ASU students who tried to shout down the Sheriff, I am usually all for letting everyone speak and the foolish usually do themselves in quickly. Unfortunately when Gov. Brewer and Little Euby speak under the banner of the Republicans in taints us all as looneys.
I will say again the NRA missed a major opportunity by not getting out in front of the issue and sponsoring some legit curbs on large magazines and gun show sales that most Americans would agree with. Their proposal instead only grows government. Little Euby will soon want to arm the granny greeter at Wal Mart with a sniper’s rifle.
Westnash:and eubykdisop:
How about both of you calling a Christmas and 2013 truce on slinging name calling arrows at one another. You disagree, we get that. I often disagree with co-workers and even my wife, but don’t resort to name calling. At work, it would get me fired and at home it would rightly place me in the doghouse. Have your differences, but the name calling is making this excellent conservative site less desirable to visit. I”m beginning to wonder if that’s not the goal…and if it is, I wonder why.
In the interest of disclosure, I might add that eubykdisop has enlightened me on several topics on these pages. He is hardly “little eubiy.” He’s a teacher.
Yes! Yes! This incessant hurling of invectives is degenerating to the point of driving me away from my favorite Arizona blog. Please give it a rest. I enjoy reading the opposing comments but the petty names are awful. Disagree? Sure. But do it with civility.
Americian Patriot, I appreciate the first paragraph you wrote and agree with it.
I think it would have been best if you had stopped there.
In the interest of disclosure, I think that Euby has provided some light, but much more heat than light. He might be a teacher, but I’m not sure what, exactly, he is teaching.
I think Westnash is either a liberal Republican or a “nervous Nellie” conservative who is too worried about what the liberal media might say than with having the courage and will to devise campaign that will advance the conservative agenda with as little compromise as possible.
As you can see from my post, stopping at the first paragraph can have a huge impact on the tone of the post.
Have a Merry Christmas!
American Patriot:
Both Westnash and Hunter are Pinkos. There will be no truce. Neither of them alone can deal with me so now they have joined forces. That’s not unusual at all. It is what Pinkos usually do when faced with a Conservative, LOL! No problem! I can handle them and ten more like them at the same time! Truth does all the work!
The bottom line is that the leftists who post in this blog want me to be silent because I know too much and because I’m too effective at debunking their arguments. That’s not going to happen. I will not be slient. If SRAZ thinks I should be banned then they can ban me but I will not back off one iota!
“My good friends, for the second time in our history, a British Prime Minister has returned from Germany bringing peace with honour. I believe it is peace for our time. We thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Go home and get a nice quiet sleep.” – British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, 30 September 1938.
Are you craving a “nice quiet sleep”, American Patriot? Is the avoidance of “name calling” your raison d’etre? Is form to come before substance? Should we permit the left to use “political correctness” as a weapon?
We are at war. It is a war without the explosions of artillery shells. Nevertheless, it is a war for the survival of The United States of America as we have known it. I won’t hold back anything.
“I drove to the Rhine River and went across on the pontoon bridge. I stopped in the middle to take a piss and then picked up some dirt on the far side in emulation of William the Conqueror.” – General George S. Patton, March 1945
That is the “politically incorrect” manner in which General George S. Patton brought to a conclusion the folly of Neville Chamberlain who spoke of “peace in our time” and who told Britains to “get a nice quiet sleep”!
So if you are concerned about “name calling” and that I am making SRAZ “less desirable to visit”, if you are concerned about “the goal”, then instead of visiting SRAZ you should be visitng the grave of Neville Chamberlain.
Euby, you are not a conservative; you are in favor of big government to push your agenda in rather than letting each person get protection from the government in order to pursue their own individual agendas and pursue their own happiness (within the bounds of liberty). There is no way you are in favor of limited government based on your “pronouncements.”
I am not teaming up with anyone against you.
You often don’t respond to what people write. Rather, you make up something they didn’t actually write (a straw man) and then respond to that.
You never actually make logically consistent arguments. You use name calling, jingoism, and your apparently unlimited free time to engage in verbal abuse rather than logical arguments.
Those of us that work for a living, have families, and have a life don’t have time to continually respond to your obnoxious diatribes. When you think you have won because people you are verbally bullying get tired of dealing with a vile person such as yourself, it really means we have just moved on to live our lives and have decided you are no longer worth the time.
Have a Merry Christmas.
ROFL! Kiss my grits! You’re simply not worth any more than that.
By the way, this scenario is not something new to me nor is it to other Conservatives who post at blogs. When the lefties see that a Conservative poster is busting Pinkos, Pinko lies and being supported by other Conservatives at the blog, they make a concerted effort to silence that Conservative. The well known and familiar strategy they use is to gang up in attacking and then have other sympathizers complain about how the truth is somehow hurting the blog. Politcal correctness is also cited to demonstrate how very bad and uncivilized the Conservative is. This is not novel but rather the standard “treatment”.
Conservative blogs are one of the important battlefields in the war to save America. As such, they are not ignored by the left. When a Conservative poster is too effective, the strategy is to get the blog to dump that Conservative. This is no different from the strategy used by homosexual activists in their attempts to silence those who support the preservation of marriage. It is no different because the same leftists are behind both.
Because of the atmosphere the left has created, even Conservatives are often reluctant to stand up and speak out. They don’t want to be subjected to the inevitable assaults from the left. Standing up and speaking out, however, is precisely the countermeasure of choice.
When Pinkos and their sympathizers start doing their schtick at a Conservative blog then you can be certain that that blog is hurting them. Such shenanigans constitute the badge of courage for a Conservative blog. If the left isn’t pulling out all the stops and using their standard bag of tricks, then the blog has not yet been a sufficient threat to their “cause” to warrant such attention.
Euby, you are not a conservative. You are in favor of big government whenever it suits your interests or preferences.
I hope Seeing Red will block your comments since you add little or no value to the discussions and damage the reputation of this blog with your psychotic rants.
ROFL! You don’t even see the irony in your own comment, do you! Tell us, Hunter, what value YOUR above comment has added to the discussion!
I think that SRAZ is quite capable of managing their own reputation, Hunter!
Thank you for proving the point I made above, by the way. Now you are asking SRAZ to block my comments. I stated above that Pinkos want to silence Conservatives. You’ve just proven that.
Have a nice day, Hunter! :-)