Feds overhaul foreign mosques, supply computers with US tax $$

“Building relationships with Islamic leaders”

This is not new, but chances are you haven’t seen anything like this report detailing the hundreds of millions of dollars the U.S. State Department is spending refurbishing ancient mosques in Islamic countries. 

Atlanta’s WSB TV 2 Action News investigators found a 1,300-year-old Egyptian mosque nearly flooded by contaminated sewer water that is one of many ancient Cairo mosques that were saved from destruction by the U.S. taxpayers. This is part of a $770 million program specifically to rebuild Cairo’s sewer system, paid for by the U.S. State Department’s USAID program.

If that riles you, hold on…there’s more. American tax dollars also fund computers, Internet service and mosques in places like Tajikistan and Mali. At an ancient mud brick mosque in Mali, our federal government has provided Internet service and computer equipment to local imams.

With radical websites inciting violence and extremism worldwide, concerns run high that the taxpayer-funded Internet service will be misused.

“That is not the job of the U.S., giving Internet access to imams and Muslim preachers who hate America,” Egyptian-American human rights activist Nonie Darwish told Channel 2 Action News anchor Justin Farmer. Darwish says “trying to buy respect in the Middle East only shows our weakness.”

Check out the State and USAID – FY 2013 Budget here.

 

H/T WSB TV2

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37 Responses to Feds overhaul foreign mosques, supply computers with US tax $$

  1. Westnash says:

    I agree, Unfortunately the law is that whatever USA gives to Israel they also have to give to Egypt and they must have a hard time coming up with ways to spend the money. Israel is now a middle class economy and our Aid to them should stop and with it the amount given to Egypt would also drastically decrease.

    We are also wasting money here at home, many many times what is wasted in foreign AID. The enormous military budget probably wastes more money than has ever been imagined in our history. Our country is bankrupt because of this combination of waste.

    • eubykdisop says:

      So let me see if I understand you correctly, Westnash:

      1 – There is a law that whatever the USA gives to Israel it also has to give to Egypt. Could you please provide us with the name of the enabling legislation?

      2 – So our aid to Israel has been based upon the status of their economy rather than upon their security status. Is that correct?

      3 – If we stop aid to Israel then aid to Egypt would stop. Can you please provide us with the name of the legislation which contains those provisions?

      4 – Which items in the military budget should be cut and what percentage of the total budget would that save?

      • Dennis O'Brien says:

        Great questions, all, euby! IF Westnash answers, it will be with wild equivocations and his previously displayed anti-Israel bias showing.

        This report is infuriating. How could our government be so foolish? Oh, I forgot who we have living at 1700 Pennsylvania Avenue.

        Patriot Mom also nailed it as she clearly identified who is actually responsible for re-installing Obama.

      • Westnash says:

        I am amazed, Euby, with your foreign policy credentials that you are not aware of the 1979 agreement between the US, Israel, and Egypt that set about this huge expenditure of your tax dollars which has continued throughout all administrations. Even more so, that the Palestinians also receive a huge chunk of foreign aid for the same reason and based on the same agreement.

        Now with your expertise in defense issues you can surely analyze the figures below (from Wikipedia, so may not be 100% accurate). The money which has and continues to be spent in Iraq and Afghanistan has been wasted. I would stop that and immediately cut the budget 10% with no growth and then analyze what we need going forward. Eliminating waste and duplication, and putting soldiers back in jobs we pay contractors for now would get another 10% minimum.

        Budget breakdown for 2012 Defense-related expenditure 2012 Budget request & Mandatory spending[22][23] Calculation[24][25]
        DOD spending $707.5 billion Base budget + “Overseas Contingency Operations”
        FBI counter-terrorism $2.9 billion At least one-third FBI budget.
        International Affairs $5.6–$63.0 billion At minimum, foreign arms sales. At most, entire State budget
        Energy Department, defense-related $21.8 billion
        Veterans Affairs $70.0 billion
        Homeland Security $46.9 billion
        NASA, satellites $3.5–$8.7 billion Between 20% and 50% of NASA’s total budget
        Veterans pensions $54.6 billion
        Other defense-related mandatory spending $8.2 billion
        Interest on debt incurred in past wars $109.1–$431.5 billion Between 23% and 91% of total interest
        Total Spending $1.030–$1.415 trillion

      • phoenixlaw says:

        There is no such law mandating equal aid to Egypt. We give Israel more than $8 million a day, and for what reason I can’t imagine. We give aid to Egypt to buy them off so that they will leave Israel alone, so in effect. this is more money spent needlessly on Israel. The aid to Israel is solely for military use and has nothing at all to do with their economy.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Please forgive me, Westnash, but I do not see any of the following in your most recent comment:

        1 – Any reference to any verifiable U. S. law or other instrument, by name, mandating that aid to Egypt accompany aid to Israel or that a cessation of aid to Israel will result in cessation of aid to Egypt. Please provide such a reference so that we may independently verify your assertions.

        2 – Any factual evidence that aid to Israel has been based upon it’s economic status rather than it’s security status.

        3 – Any documentation of the amount of money being spent in Iraq and Afghanistan and in what way you feel that that money is being “wasted”.

        4 – What you would, specifically, cut from the defense budget to save 10% and documentation that what you would cut would actually save 10%. Please provide hard facts and numbers to back up your assertions.

        Thank you.

  2. LEO IN TSN says:

    Why aren’t American taxpayers rising up against this funding of the enemies of America in their campaign to destroy US? Why aren’t we screaming about the plan to sell 20 brand new state-of-the-art fighter jets to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, whose leaders have vowed to destroy Israel and her allies? Why are we giving them the weapons to do so? Why are we still funding, training and arming the Palestinian Authority (PLO) Militia so they can continue preparing for the invasion of Israel?

    Why hasn’t it been reported with outrage that on 9/11/2012, while the American embassy in Cairo was being attacked by muslim militants, other groups of Al Quada fighters were sweeping through the Coptic Christian community. They attacked three Christian churches and dragged the pastors outside where they were crucified. The muslims then swept through the Christian community, attacking, looting and burning. A motor convoy of fleeing Christians was pursued by the muslim militants in a raging gun battle, and were saved only because Israeli border guards drove back the attackers. A first-hand account of this is in a pod cast file in the archives of the James T. Harris radio show on 104.1 The Truth radio station in Tucson. The report was made by an American security agent, hired to protect the Coptic Christian Churches, who was wounded in the gun battle. Also, here is an interesting explanation of the religious significance of 9/11 and why it is so highly regarded as a target date by our enemies.

    http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/7319#more-7319

    This outrageous surrender to islam by US has to stop. Where are our elected “R” representatives? Are they the only ones who don’t know what’s going on here? Why are we being overwhelmed with silence? When will somebody speak up for US and our allies?

    God bless America.

    • phoenixlaw says:

      Where is the outcry against our outrageous surrender to Zionism by the US. You are a joke!!

      • Jonathan says:

        You show your true bent, phoenixlaw. Zionism is not an entity of surrender or repression, but one of freedom. It is not something to be despised as you obviously do. In fact it has nothing to do with you. It is an acknowledgement of the Jewish people whose families had been confined in eastern European ghettos and slaughtered in German and Polish death camps, of a rebirth and renewal in the land of Israel, their historical home. Jewish settlers in the land of Israel made the previously barren desert blossom. They have diligently protected their land and freedoms, even giving up the sections of the scant area they have to their enemies for empty promises of peace that have never come.

        Check out this list of Jewish Nobel accomplishments as compared to Islamic ones:

        http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/jewish-vs-islamic-nobel-prize-accomplishments/blog-166783/

        Former Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir said it very well: “Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us.”
        It’s clear you haven’t gotten that wise yet.

  3. Seen It All says:

    Israel is the sole democracy in the Mideast. I am no fan of foreign aid, but if anyone should be a recipient, it should be Israel. Egypt is now being run by the Muslim Brotherhood, which is fine with Barack Hussein Obama and the mysteriously disappeared Hillary Clinton, who is doing her damnedest not to testify on the Benghazi embassy murders, about which the entire administration continuously lied to the American people. Tiny Israel is surrounded by sworn enemies who have openly expressed their desire to annihilate the people living there — men, women and children — and destroy the entire country.

  4. patriotmom says:

    Uninformed, dependent voters got Nobama elected and kept him in office. Do we really think these people know or care anything about foreign policy? They couldn’t pick Egypt out on a map lettered with EGYPT in capital letters let alone have any idea what happened in Benghazi.

    This last election proved that most Americans have no idea what is going on in this country or in the world and don’t care until it hits them upside the head. They elected a man with great sympathies for and, I suspect, faith in Islam. He will sell our Judeo-Christian country down the river in a heartbeat- and it will be too late to do anything about it.

    Personally, I’m ashamed of white Christians who sat out this election because they didn’t trust Romney or couldn’t vote for a Mormon. What they “elected”, by choosing not to vote, was evil in a slick package and they will pay dearly for it.

  5. Doc says:

    …meanwhile…here @ home, there are UNITED STATES VETERANS, & THEIR FAMILIES WHO ARE HOMELESS, HUNGRY, & COLD! …and we give muslims money?…whatta’ criminal/rookie…

  6. Night Owl says:

    Count on the fact that those computers will not be used for instruction, but more likely for sending messages to like minded Islamic fundamentalist jihadists who are plotting against us. What fools we Americans are to allow our hard earned money to be misspent this way by the Muslim in the White House. Where are the raised voices?

  7. eubykdisop says:

    Where do the Communists stand regarding Israel and it’s survival?

    “SIXTY-FOUR COMMUNIST PARTIES OPPOSE ISRAELI THREAT AGAINST IRAN”

    “In the mostly widely supported joint declaration for decades, 64 communist and worker’s parties across the world join forces to declare “We are totally opposed to any military action against Iran!”

    “We the undersigned Communist and Workers Parties express our grave concerns and strong condemnation of the recent statements by the Israeli policy makers, about attacking Iran.”

    Algerian Party for Democracy and Socialism (PADS); Communist Party of Australia; Communist Party of Austria; National Liberation Front, Bahrain; Communist Party of Bangladesh; Communist Party of Belgium; Workers Party of Belgium; Communist Party of Brazil; Workers Party, Brazil; Communist Party of Britain; Communist Party of Canada; Communist Party of Catalonia; Communist Party of Chile (Chile); Communist Party of Columbia; Socialist Workers Party of Croatia; . AKEL (Cyprus); Communist Party of Bohemia and Moravia (Czech Republic); Communist Party in Denmark; Communist Party of Egypt ; Communist Party of Finland; Communist Party of France; German Communist Party (DKP); Communist Party of Greece; Communist Party of Guadeloupe; Hungarian Communist Workers Party; Communist Party of India; Communist Party of India (Marxist); Communist Party of Israel; Tudeh Party of Iran; Communist Party of Iraq; Communist Party of Ireland; . Workers Party of Ireland; Communist Refoundation Party of Italy; Party of Italian Communists (Italy); Communist Party of Jordan; Socialist Party of Latvia; Communist Party of Lebanon; . Socialist People’s Front (Lithuania); Communist Party of Luxemburg (KPL); Communist Party of Malta; Communist Party of Martiniquais; Communist Party of Mexico; Party of Progress and Socialism (Morocco); Democratic Socialist Vanguard Party (Morocco); Communist Party of Norway; People’s Party of Palestine; Communist Party of Pakistan; Communist Party of Peru; Communist Party of Poland; Communist Party of Portugal; Communist Party of People’s of Spain; Communist Party of Sweden; Communist Party of Sudan; Communist Party of Russian Federation; Party of Independence and Labour of Senegal; Communist Party of Spain; Communist Party of South Africa; Communist Party of Reunionese; Communist Party of Turkey; Movement Ettajdid (Tunisia); Worker Party of Tunisia; Communist Party of USA; Communist Party of Uruguay; Polisario Front (Western Sahara).

    • phoenixlaw says:

      So what? Iran is not a threat to Israel and is certainly not a threat to the US. If any one is a threat to peace in the Middle East, it is Israel. Israel has been working diligently for more than 45 years to wipe Palestine off the map, all with a wink and a nod from the US. Who is the real threat to peace?

      • Justin says:

        Look at this map and if you are not brain dead, you might rethink your position about Israel not being in harm’s way. A nuclear Iran is a threat to the entire world. Israel is surrounded by sworn enemies who have made clear their intention to push the Jewish people into the sea. You are either a fool or an anti-Semite.

        http://israelsmessiah.com/palestinian_refugees/israel_vs_arabs.htm

        I am a devout Christian who fully supports Israel. You seem not to know that there is no actual Palestine either on or off the map. The Muslim Arab nations created this problem for the Muslims you care so deeply about.

      • eubykdisop says:

        “Khamenei: Zionist regime is a cancer”

        “Tehran’s supreme leader promises Iranian people the world will soon be rid of ‘cancerous Zionist regime'; says Iran will help anyone fighting Israel”

        “Dudi Cohen Published: 02.03.12″

        “The Zionist regime is a cancerous tumor and it will be removed,” Teheran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said Friday.

        He also reiterated Iran’s threat to close the Strait of Hormuz, saying that “when the time comes we will execute our warning.”

        http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4184838,00.html

    • sgtflapjaw says:

      I see the Communist Party of the USA on the list, but not the Socialist/Democrat Party of the USA. Was Obama playing golf and forgot to send it in?

  8. eubykdisop says:

    Where do the Communists stand regarding the Islamic world and jihad?

    “A new Cold War”

    “Exclusive: Former Soviet-bloc spy chief reveals secret puppet-master behind Islamic radicalism
    Published: 09/23/2012 at 5:14 PM”

    “by Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa”

    “Editor’s note: Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is the highest-ranking Soviet-bloc official ever to defect to the West.”

    “My past experience at the top of the Soviet bloc intelligence community gives me solid ground to state that the Muslim attacks on U.S. embassies and the assassination of our ambassador to Libya, carried out with Soviet-made rocket-propelled grenades, Kalashnikovs and Molotov cocktails, were just as “spontaneous” as the May Day parades in Moscow – and that they have the same organizers.”

    “The KGB boss described the Muslim world as a waiting petri dish, in which we could nurture a strain of hate-America, grown from the bacterium of Marxist-Leninist thought. Islamic anti-Semitism ran deep, he said. The Muslims had a taste for nationalism, jingoism and victimology, and their illiterate, oppressed mobs could easily be whipped up to a fever pitch. We had only to keep repeating, over and over, that the United States was a war-mongering, Zionist country anxious to take over the whole world.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/a-brand-new-cold-war/

  9. eubykdisop says:

    How did Karl Marx, the “Father of Communism” and co-author of the “Manifesto of the Communist Party”, feel about Jewish people?

    “It is from its own entrails that civil society ceaselessly engenders the Jew.” – Karl Marx

  10. Westnash says:

    Karl Marx was born a jew

    • Justin says:

      So was Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He lived and died a Jew. His last meal on Earth was a Passover seder.

      Marx was born to Jewish parents, but renounced religion and was a committed atheist, as were his Communist founding pals Lenin and Trotsky.

    • eubykdisop says:

      “But Communism abolishes eternal truths, it abolishes all religion, and all morality, instead of constituting them on a new basis; it therefore acts in contradiction to all past historical experience.” – Karl Marx, “Manifesto of the Communist Party”, Chapter II, “Proletarians and Communists”.

  11. Westnash says:

    It does all those things, Euby. But it is not against the law. Also under our constitution, there is freedom of religion. I may not agree with all of them but respect their rights.

    Many of the things you rant against (building schools, repairing mosques) are actually being done by your precious military in Iraq and Afghanistan. I think it is a bad use of our money and that we have no business there…they are so overmanned and over budgeted they have to find projects to keep the people busy and spend our $$$$.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Westnash wrote: “It does all those things, Euby. But it is not against the law.” Therefore you conclude what about Communism, Westnash?

      Which religious rights is it that you respect, Westnash?

      Where have I ranted against building schools and repairing mosques? Quote me.

      Westnash wrote: “…being done by your precious military…” Yes, Westnash, our precious military. And what might be your characterization of our military?

      Again, Westnash, you are making very general statements without any hard facts or figures to back up those statements. A federal budget is not an intellectual concept. It is about dollars and, specifically, how they will be spent. Give us your military budget with hard numbers or your statements are meaningless generalities.

  12. eubykdisop says:

    Westnash wrote: “Karl Marx was born a jew.”

    Dear Westnash, Sir:

    Do you think it might be more appropriate to write that Karl Marx was born Jewish instead of writing that he was born “a jew”?

    Thank you most kindly, Westnash, Sir, for considering my humble point.

    • Jonathan says:

      Thank you, eubykdisop. Subtle, but very significent catch. Westnash reveals his bias.

      • eubykdisop says:

        You’re most welcome, Johnathan. To me, the phrase “a jew” sounds too much like referring to an object of scorn.

      • Westnash says:

        There is no bias, either for or against. Marxism is almost totally discredited now except in North Korea, China, Vietnam, and Cuba.

        I have been to Israel and Palestine. I think the Israeli’s have the right to retaliate, hunt down and kill those who attack them. I don’t think they have the right to then tear down the family home and steal the land or build settlements on land that they have agreed to give up. That brings back the worst of the word Jew.

        I don’t think the USA should support that or give a country, that looks and is as prosperous as California a huge amount of aid.

  13. Doc says:

    Apparadently, th’ muslims ain’t th’ only ones gettin mo’ money! Check THIS Happy Horse Puckey out:

    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-orders-raise-biden-members-congress-federal-workers_692223.html

    …un-freekin’-believable…

  14. Westnash says:

    Euby, with your vast experience in Defense matters you should be aware of the budget process. However, I would start with 10% across the board cut, freeze any increase and that includes pay. That get us a savings of about $100 billion annually and after the squealing is over, none of it would be missed. At the same time we would begin to close unneeded bases here and overseas and get rid of the duplication of efforts between services.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Westnash, with your vast experience in defense matters, you should be aware that the idea of a 10% “across the board cut” is simplistic. It’s a “paper” idea which does not address the reality on the ground. You could do something like that with the Department of Education without any dire consequences but with the military, you could be writing death warrants for our troops!

      You wrote: “None of it would be missed.” That depends on what was cut! Do you remember how our troops were scavanging junk yards in Iraq trying to find stuff with which to uparmor their vehicles? They were running around in the desert in amphibs with a top speed of about 30 mph, designed to handle small arms fire, and encountering IED’s! Meanwhile, Rumsfeld was “touring” in a Rhino Runner which could withstand an IED!

      Closing more bases is militarily a very unsound idea. Why? Simple! Never put all of your eggs in one basket! The fewer bases there are, the more concentrated our assets, the easier it is for the enemy to deliver a crippling blow, either through conventional attack or through terrorist attacks.

      Eliminating duplication of effort between services is a sound idea and could save some money. Interservice rivalry can be expensive. There’s a lot of “tradition” there which isn’t worth the cost. Congress often makes things worse by trying to steer defense work to particular states or districts. I remember when Trent Lott was told by the Navy that they didn’t need or want the ships he was pushing to have built. His reply? “Wrong answer!” He wanted the contracts in his state. Lots of jobs and money… and some of that money was going to find it’s way to his campaign coffers!

      The F-35 is both the most expensive “weapons system” in U. S. history and the biggest military boondoggle in U. S. history. It was ill conceived. Too late to do anything about that now. We’re stuck with it. I don’t think that was an accident either!

  15. eubykdisop says:

    Westnash wrote: “Marxism is almost totally discredited now except in North Korea, China, Vietnam, and Cuba.”

    You have GOT to be kidding me, Westnash! What planet are you living on? For that matter, what country are you living in?

    I can show you, item by item, how the exact agenda in Marx’s “Manifesto of the Communist Party” is being implemented right now in The United States of America. If you doubt that, challenge me on it! I’ll be more than happy to go through it item by item.

    Furthermore, Westnash, there are semantic games being played. Russia isn’t Communist any more? Vladimir Putin, President of Russia, for 16 years was an officer in the KGB, rising to the rank of Lieutenant Colonel, before he retired to enter politics in his native Saint Petersburg in 1991. You think that Putin is a Capitalist? Get real! You think that Putin isn’t Communist? You think that his objectives as President of Russia are not Communist? Please! The Communists had this man for his entire life, since he was an infant! He isn’t going to change his stripes!

    Did you read the article I linked to above?

    http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/a-brand-new-cold-war/

  16. Night Owl says:

    Westnash,
    You must be living under a very large rock. How you can conclude that “Marxism is almost totally discredited now except in North Korea, China, Vietnam, and Cuba” is beyond any rational thought. I was in San Francisco on business recently and came face to face with a massive parade downtown. And what do you know? An enormous banner that went from one side of the street to the other, and carried by numerous, mostly young people, proclaimed the “Communist Party of America.”

    I would tell you to pull your head out of your pompous ass, but I don’t talk like that.

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