Gun Appreciation Day rally: AZ Capitol, noon today

There is a 50-state march planned for noon today — Saturday, Jan. 19, at state capitals nationwide — to peacefully show popular resistance to the draconian plans and unconstitutional proposals of Barack Obama and Congressional liberals to curtail our rights — as a solution to the acts of psychopaths. Left-wing extremists have been seeking an excuse to restrict and ultimately eliminate our Second Amendment freedoms for decades.

In Phoenix, meet at 1700 W. Washington, on the State Capitol lawn. Information and guidelines for today’s event can be read here.

Alan Gottlieb of the Second Amendment Foundation conceived the idea of Gun Appreciation Day. The group’s press release can be read here.

There is also a huge Crossroads of the West gun show at the Arizona State Fairgrounds — 1826 West McDowell Rd., Phoenix, 85007 — today Saturday, January 19th thru tomorrow Sunday, January 20th, 2013. Plan on attending both the rally and the show. The gun show even has a discount coupon!

Judge Andrew Napolitano has written “Guns and Freedom“, which includes this important message: “Today, the limitations on the power and precision of the guns we can lawfully own not only violate our natural right to self-defense and our personal sovereignties; they assure that a tyrant can more easily disarm and overcome us.”

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21 Responses to Gun Appreciation Day rally: AZ Capitol, noon today

  1. Westnash says:

    We end up looking like loony’s with these things while the Gun Show organizers make $$$millions.

    I am much more interested in a Cut Government Spending (City, County, State, Federal) Day.

    • eubykdisop says:

      What do you mean, “we”? We count you not among us.

      Aye, “loons”, but fighting loons we be! Now lift up your skirts and run! Find a haystack in which to hide yourself from the battle lest you be taken for a patriot!

    • Army Of One says:

      Loonies? Were our Founders who realized the need for the Second Amendment was so great, they placed it right next to the First insuring freedom of speech and assembly, also loonies?

      Comparing government spending and the ability to protect and defend ourselves are apples and oranges. The more I read your comments the less inclined I am to take them seriously. You appear to have found your niche as an agitator rather than a thoughtful contributor.

      • eubykdisop says:

        “Troll (Internet)”

        “In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

        Since you are not averse to making new rules, SRAZ, how about some rules regarding trolling?

  2. eubykdisop says:

    Our nation was founded as a direct result of fighting and winning the Revolutionary War. What was it that sparked that war?

    “The first shots starting the revolution were fired at Lexington, Massachusetts. On April 18, 1775, British General Thomas Gage sent 700 soldiers to destroy guns and ammunition the colonists had stored in the town of Concord, just outside of Boston.”

    We have come full circle.

    In the museum at Fort Ticonderoga on Lake Champlain is a knapsack. It was made by hand and carried by it’s maker into all of the major battles of the Revolutionary War. He served for the duration, until the war was won.

    After the war, he farmed the land and raised a family. Old and nearing death, he called together his children and gave to them the knapsack which he still had in his posession. Though the red paint he had used as a form of waterproofing has long faded away, the inscription he wrote upon it is clearly visible to this very day:

    “As long as this exists, let no tyrant rule.”

  3. Westnash says:

    To repeat, another important story is the one from today of the town of Cave Creek discovering it was $62 million dollars in debt from a water treatment plant. Where did the money go and what type of Financial Engineering was used here?

    The citizens of every town in Arizona should be both alarmed and steaming at the unrestricted expenditure of money by their extremely well paid public officials without a of minute accountability.

    Glendale is another case we are aware of. This money must include vast overpayments for goods and services that finds its ways into the pockets of those connected.

  4. eubykdisop says:

    An open letter to “Seeing Red Az”:

    You are Conservative. Your blog is Conservative. Yet you tolerate, on an ongoing basis, the posts of Westnash who you know to be an internet troll and whose sole purpose is to disrupt this Conservative Republican blog.

    Conservatives are not passive. They take action when action is necessary. While your positions are politically Conservative, your lack of decisive action in this case is not.

    If you have what you believe to be good, Conservative reasons for permitting Westnash to continue to post here, please state them for all to see. I can think of no such reasons myself.

    Thank you for your time.

    • Seeing Red AZ says:

      euby,
      We are indeed a politically conservative site. We have done our best to reign in the ongoing ruckus between you and Westnash. Allowing most comments to go up does not signal endorsement of the views expressed. There are quite a few that never appear as we exercise our descretion. Bear in mind, we are not referees. We cannot, and have no intention of being, 24-hour monitors. We expect decorum in disagreement. Anonymity is not license for rudeness. None of us is in full agreement with everything we read or hear. Overly long comments become tedious, especially when two people are intent on exchanging personal insults or stray from the post they are supposedly addressing. We welcome thoughtful comments and even differing opinions. But we have asked that you both stop personalizing your comments. Your informative comments are welcome and enlightening. Thank you for your continued readership and participation.

      • eubykdisop says:

        SRAZ:

        Thank you for your reply, disingenuous though it is.

        There is not, as you put it, a “ruckus” between Westnash and I. Westnash is clearly functioning as an internet troll and you know that quite well.

        Whether you endorse views or not is immaterial to the matter at hand. The issue is one of a disruptive troll and you know that.

        There is no need for you to monitor things 24 hours a day. All you have to do is to ban those who have proven themselves to be disruptive trolls. So that is a false argument on your part.

        The “personalizing” of comments is yet another false issue. Again, the issue is that of a poster who is functioning as a disruptive troll. THAT is the issue.

        My readership and participation are no longer going to be continued here. I can deal with Liberals and trolls like Westnash quite easily. What I cannot deal with, at the same time, is being stabbed in the back but those who are supposedly also Conservative.

        You need no longer have any concern about a “ruckus” between Westnash and I. You get to keep Westnash and I will leave. If you should ever decide to back up your Conservative artcles with Conservative action in this blog, by banning Liberal trolls, I’ll return.

        Congratulations, Westnash! With the aid and comfort of SRAZ, you win.

  5. Westnash says:

    SRA, I said previously and fully intend to keep my word in not replying to comments on my comments on SRA threads. Its ok if you dont post this so long as you read it in light of the previous post. You have there a poster who not only wants to monopolize the conversation but limit others right to an opinion on your threads. Sound like Adolph, Benito, or either of the Joe’s to me!

    • eubykdisop says:

      Westnash, as I have informed you before, you have no “rights” in this blog other than what SRAZ grants you.

  6. eubykdisop says:

    There are a plethora of places on the internet where Westnash can comment without having to function as a disruptive troll in a Conservative Republican blog, SRAZ. Are you going to do something or are you going to do nothing?

    • Seeing Red AZ says:

      euby,

      We don’t know if you’ll see this since you have vowed not to come back to this site.

      First you compliment us as being “trusted and proven consistent conservative,” and then you accuse us of being “disingenuous” and having “stabbed [you] in the back” in our reply to you since we refuse to acquiesce to your desire that we ban another commenter. Certainly you realize we can’t go down that path or we might not have any readers left.

      We wrote to you saying “Your informative comments are welcome and enlightening. Thank you for your continued readership and participation.” That is hardly a stab in the back.

      This is a political blog. It is not a prize fighting arena or war zone. There are no victors and vanquished, only opinions.

    • eubykdisop says:

      I will reply to your statement, SRAZ.

      Once again, you are being disingenuous in the extreme and I am compelled to call you out on that.

      Yes, you are reliably consistent and Conservative IN THE ARTICLES WHICH YOU WRITE AND POST. However, you don’t back up your Conservative talk with Conservative action in the comments section. I think that is a very clear and understandable distinction, SRAZ.

      I have not accused you of being disingenous, I have shown that you are, in fact, disingenuous. Perhaps I need to make the case more clearly.

      You spoke of a “ruckus” between Westnash and I. You spoke of not endorsing views. You spoke of the inability to be 24 hour monitors. You spoke about personalizing comments. You spoke about overly long comments. All of that constitutes nothing but avoidance of the issue. You have made excuse after excuse to do everything BUT address the real issue. What is the real issue?

      “Army Of One says:
      January 19, 2013 at 12:56 pm
      You appear to have found your niche as an agitator rather than a thoughtful contributor.”

      How is it that “Army Of One” can see that quite clearly and you, somehow, cannot? “Army Of One” has essentially described Westnash with the definition of an internet troll.

      Yes, abolutely, you have stabbed me in the back. How? Very simple. Westnash, being a Liberal troll, essentially makes the same attacks on Conservative positions over and over and over again. Each time he does so, I defend the Conservative position. Not only do you fail to address this never-ending series of repetitive attacks by banning this Liberal troll, but you seek to characterize my principled defense of Conservative positions as a “ruckus” with Westnash. No, that is not to be trivialized as a “ruckus”. It represents the essence of the battle between Conservatives and Liberals, the battle of ideas, principles and truth. By failing to eject a known Liberal troll, you are helping the Liberal cause through a sin of omission.

      SRAZ wrote: “This is a political blog. It is not a prize fighting arena or war zone. There are no victors and vanquished, only opinions.” Absolutely wrong! That is as clear a definition of moral relativism as ever I have heard and moral relativism is at the core of the Liberal belief system! “Right” and “wrong” DO in fact exist and Conservatives know the difference between them. You cannot dismiss them as “only opinions” and have any moral ground at all to stand on.

      If you are going to claim to be a Conservative Republican blog, then you absolutely need to take a side. If you want to be neutral, then don’t bill yourself as a Conservative Republican blog because there is no “neutral” in the face of the full scale assault on our country, on The Constitution and on our liberties!

      I don’t expect that this will be seen in the blog but YOU will see it and, unless you change your ways, you will have to live with it, knowing that what I say is the truth.

      • Hunter says:

        Euby, if you don’t like the way SRAZ is run, you can start your own conservative blog which you can run under your own rules. We blog readers and participants could compare how it works compared to SRAZ and make our reading and participation decisions accordingly.

        SRAZ has been generous to you by allowing your posts critical of SRAZ to display on its blog. At some point, though, you need to accept SRAZ for what it is and stop posting complaints or start your own blog and put your complaints about SRAZ and your personal views on that.

        It costs nothing except a little time to set up a blog. It is almost a perfectly competitive market of ideas with almost no entry costs or barriers to entry. As with any competitive situation, it could turn out that one blog will ascend at the expense of the other or that both will thrive by functioning in different ways, expanding conservative blogging, and meeting different needs of the online conservative community.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Thank you, Hunter, but I reject your suggestion. Furthermore, no, I do not need to stop posting “complaints”, as you put it, when those “complaints” go to the issue of whether or not “Seeing Red AZ” is managing it’s comments section like the Conservative Republican blog which it claims to be.

        To be as succinct as possible:

        “Army Of One says:(regarding Westnash)
        January 19, 2013 at 12:56 pm
        You appear to have found your niche as an agitator rather than a thoughtful contributor.”

        “How is it that “Army Of One” can see that quite clearly and you, somehow, cannot?” HOW IS THAT?

        It adds insult to injury when SRAZ characterizes everything as “only opinions”, denying, as with the moral relativism of the Liberal left, that there is even “right” and “wrong”. The arguments against Liberal support for homosexual “marriage” are “only opinions” and have no basis in moral “right” and “wrong”? How very Libertarian!

        Hunter wrote: “SRAZ has been generous to you by allowing your posts critical of SRAZ to display on its blog.” No, Hunter, what is “generous” is allowing a known and proven Liberal troll to operate here with impunity while characterizing my principled defense of Conservative positions as a “ruckus”.

        Furthermore, it is disingenuous beyond belief to make the argument that banning a known and proven disruptive Liberal troll would somehow lead to ultimately banning everyone, “…or we might not have any readers left.”

        Thank you though, Hunter, for caring enough to weigh in on the subject. Clearly, at least we never have to worry your mental machinery grinding to a halt! ;-)

  7. Macbeth says:

    ENOUGH of the fragile egos! Let’s stick to the subject at hand.

    • eubykdisop says:

      The subject at hand is, as always, Liberal versus Conservative. If you see that as “fragile egos”, Macbeth, then you have found yourself a comfortable place to settle into as The Constitution and your liberties are eradicated. The fact is, Macbeth, that you would rather feel comfortable than endure the hardships and discomfort of a fight for your own freedoms. Be comfortable. Sleep well. Sleep deep. It will be your only escape from the nightmare of the tyranny which will envelope us if we all run from the fight as you are so willing to do… on a flimsy pretext.

  8. Westnash says:

    Euby, as much as you like to control the posts and thinking on someone else’s blog…why don’t you start your own and you can ask and answer all the questions yourself….even if the answers are nonsensical.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Wrong, as usual, Westnash. I want SRAZ to control the posts in their own blog like the Conservative Republicans they claim to be. It’s called “accountability”.

  9. Justin says:

    Long lines, huge crowds at Gun Show of the West at Fairgrounds today.

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