AZ illegals using fraudulent ID’s skew facts

Document fraud is not a victimless crime

In yet another bogus claim, advocates for illegal aliens using false ID’s in Maricopa County are charging they are being unfairly targeted. They allege it’s unreasonable to charge working illegals with felonies, while college students found with fake IDs at bars rarely face charges.

Under Arizona law, illegals using false identification documents can face felony charges of forgery and false identity denying them the ability to post bail. Once convicted of felonies, they are then turned over to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials. Such criminal convictions can rightfully block any future ability to obtain legal status in the United States.

At a downtown press conference organized by the League of United Latin American Citizens Friday, showboating defense lawyer and illegal alien advocate Antonio Bustamante called the charges against illegals an “unconscionable application of the law.”

In response, Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery said, “We target conduct. We don’t target people.” He said identity theft is a serious crime causing victims to spend months clearing their identity. “The harm can be very real,” he said. Arizona’s identity theft law prohibits using the statute to prosecute offenders under the age of 21.

Identity theft is a major criminal enterprise especially evident in border states. The intent is to provide documents to facilitate the lives of foreign nationals entering the U.S. without legal authorization. Victims have their good names destroyed and can have their credit ruined, medical records compromised, or have income tax liabilities attached to their names for unpaid taxes on revenue earned on their Social Security numbers. 

In 2006, by a vote of 1,170,961 to 332,461 state voters overwhelming approved Proposition 100, amending Arizona’s Constitution to prohibit bail for any person who is charged with a serious felony offense if the person charged entered or remained in the United States illegally.

Employment-related fraud makes up the majority of Arizona’s identity theft complaints, compared to bank fraud, credit card fraud and government benefits fraud. According to this October 2011 news video from Tucson’s KGUN 9, Arizona was Number Two in the nation for identity theft complaints. In 2008, we had the dubious distinction of being Numero Uno.

The farcical  allegations and attempts to link illegals using stolen or counterfeit documents to secure American jobs, with underage bar patrons illustrates the lengths to which the open border advocates will go to obscure the facts. This foolishness even made the news in Connecticut.

For clarity, we invite you to read the short paragraph “Undocumented” listed as Number 3 in “Lingo,” our popular primer which first appeared in 2008.

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21 Responses to AZ illegals using fraudulent ID’s skew facts

  1. State Committeeman says:

    The Connecticut news story has a headline: “Maricopa top lawyer: I’m not targeting immigrants.”

    Among the many errors that continually find their way into the press (especially here in the pro-illegal Arizona Republic) is the intentional misuse of the term “immigrant” when they are actually talking about ILLEGAL aliens. Actual immigrants come to the United States to become proud citizens, gladly accepting our culture, language and American history as their own — just as immigrants throughout our history have always done.

  2. Frankly Speaking says:

    Seeing Red AZ hits the nail directly on its head! Illegals are not immigrants. The pro-amnesty Arizona Republic has glommed onto the tem “migrant,” as though they are simply migrating as a flock of geese. They are not migrants. They are not geese. They are criminals.

    America cannot absorb all of the people of the world who want to come here. Illiterates who show zero desire to become part of the fabric of this country deserve nothing other than deportation. Obama and Napolitano want them here because they can be used by the democrat party machine to do their bidding. The very fact that this issue is worthy of press coverage is beyond offensive. That republicans who should know better are aligning with liberals on this so called “bipartisan” effort to normalize criminal invaders shows how far we have stooped to show “compassion,” as in GW Bush’s moronic “compassionate conservatism.” Newt Gingrich lost the GOP primary making this same insane case. Compassion has nothing to do with enforcing our laws, if you want serious legal interpretations. Otherwise why have laws? You want compassion? Pay a therapist or go to church.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Frankly Speaking wrote: “That republicans who should know better are aligning with liberals on this so called “bipartisan” effort to normalize criminal invaders shows…”

      What is shows, Frankly Speaking, is the “One World”, “New World Order” agenda embraced by many Republicans and Democrats alike! They manage to keep the “New World Order” out of the public eye quite well but it stands revealed in a clear and obvious way when it comes to immigration.

      “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.” – Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976.

      Where is Congressman Larry P. McDonald today?

      “On September 1, 1983, McDonald and the rest of the passengers and crew of KAL 007 were killed when Soviet fighters, under the command of Gen. Anatoly Kornukov, shot down KAL 007 near Moneron Island after the plane entered Soviet airspace.” Some say that McDonald and the others survived and were taken prisoner by the Soviets.

      “Since June 2012, there is a petition drive, supported by former Senator Scott Brown, to be presented to President Obama and Speaker of the House John Boehner, to reopen the investigation into the shooting down of KAL 007 and reports of the survival of Congressman McDonald.”

      You don’t mess with the “New World Order” boys. With world control as the prize, they won’t let anyone stand in their way! And do we not today see both “supercapitalism” AND Communism under the same tent emerging just as Congressman McDonald stated?

  3. Annie O. says:

    Too rare but very welcome combination in the top echelons of the
    Republican Party. Good laws being enforced (thank you
    Sheriff Joe) and getting out a quick, excellent rebuttal to the left’s lies.
    Bouquets to Att. General Bill Montgomery. Look McFlakes, it can
    be done!

    • PVPC says:

      Annie,
      Let’s not forget that Bill Montgomery was an early supporter of Jeff Flake’s senate race. He said Jeff Flake understood the border and knew what to do about it. As you can plainly see, Flake and McAmnesty have joined forces with the amnesty loving dimocrats to pass the latest version of McCain and Kyl’s “comprehenive immigration reform.”

      Montgomery also said some very derogatory things to Supervisor Stapley about Sheriff Arpaio when he was trying to get the county attorney appointment after Thomas abandoned ship. The joke was on Montgomery when it turned out Stapley was recording him.
      He has done no favors for our sheriff.

      • Freedom First says:

        PVPC – Nice job trying to undermine a law and order conservative but your selective memory is no better than the LULAC minions.

  4. eubykdisop says:

    This is an excellent and very timely article, SRAZ, in that it points to a specific local example of a problem which is national in scope. That problem is much more serious than simple Liberal Hispanic advocacy!

    Underlying the arguments of LULAC and Antonio Bustamante is the idea that the power of prosecutorial discretion should be removed from the Maricopa County Attorney and given to Hispanic activists.

    LULAC and Bustamante seek to direct the Maricopa County Attorney to use prosecutorial discretion to not prosecute illegal aliens with fake ID’s. At the same time, on the national level, Liberal Hispanic activists seek to direct prosecutorial discretion away from prosecuting and deporting illegal aliens who are DREAM Act eligible.

    “Floor Speech Supporting Prosecutorial Discretion for DREAM Act-eligible immigrants”

    “Remarks by Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez
    July 19, 2012″

    “Mr. Speaker:”

    “I am very pleased to announce today that more than 100 of my colleagues have joined me in writing to President Obama to thank him for his action to use prosecutorial discretion to stop deportations for Dream Act eligible immigrants.”

    http://gutierrez.house.gov/floor-speech-supporting-prosecutorial-discretion-dream-act-eligible-immigrants

    At both the local level and at the national level what we are witnessing is yet another attempted power grab. In this case, there is an attempt to wrest prosecutorial discretion away from prosecutors, in whose hands that power has been vested by the people, and turn it over instead to Liberal Hispanic activists.

    • American Patriot says:

      Yes, euby! And who was Luis Gutierrez’s closet ally in Congress? None other than Jeff Flake! And who is aligned with Jeff Flake? Bill Montgomery! Think about this cabal…McCain and Kyl (both endorsed Flake), Gutierrez (Flake‘s closest congressional pal), Montgomery (endorsed Flake, & bad mouthed Arpaio when he though no one was looking). This is MORE OF THE SAME… if this is the best the Republican party has to offer, we’re in a world of hurt. They all say what it takes to get elected and then immediately do a U-turn back to giving aid and comfort to illegal invaders. What will it take for us to wake up to some hard facts?

      This is what the ticked off Greater Phoenix Tea Party Patriots had to say during Flake’s senate campaign….

      http://phoenixteaparty.ning.com/profiles/blogs/maricopa-county-attorney-bill-montgomery-endorses-jeff-flake-for

      • eubykdisop says:

        Hi, American Patriot!

        From the information in the article, and in the links from the article, it looks like LULAC and Bustamante aren’t happy with Montgomery because his office is prosecuting illegals for false ID’s. That’s what the fuss is about. So I don’t think that we can fault Montgomery on this one. He’s taking prosecutorial action which is majorly hacking off the Hispanic activists in this case.

        That said, about this particular issue, I don’t trust Montgomery as far as I could throw him because of the facts you mentioned. He did endorse Flake and, regarding Sheriff Arpaio, there’s this from the Phoenix New Times:

        “Bill Montgomery, Arpaio-Backed Candidate for County Attorney, Highly Critical of Sheriff and Andrew Thomas”

        “By Ray Stern, Fri., Apr. 30 2010 at 6:33 PM”

        “Bill Montgomery, the candidate for Maricopa County Attorney backed by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, strongly questions Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s mental fitness and leadership ability in a secret tape made by county officials.”

        As regards expectations of the Republican Party, I think we have to realize that the major division today is no longer between Republicans and Democrats but rather between those in both parties promoting the “New World Order” agenda versus constitutional Conservatives who, whether they are conciously aware of it or not, stand in opposition to the “New World Order” agenda.

  5. Seen It All says:

    In Arizona where we suffer the effects brought on with illegal crossings more than most states, we have two of the most despicable pro-illegal advocates in the US Senate working along with the Democrats who will benefit from their efforts. Jeff Flake and John McCain are detestable sellouts. During McCain’s first race, he had to be dissuaded from running as a Democrat for Congressman John Rhodes seat and Flake is a Libertarian who knows the had to cloak himself as a Republican in order to win elections. Regardless of what lies they spew to win elections, neither is a Constitutional conservative.

  6. Westnash says:

    What is happening is that most illegals now are smart enough to get around the problem by working for another who might be here legally….let’s say it is Chico’s Framing who sets up and provides subcontracting to a large builder. Chico has the documents to prove he is here legally and a performance bond…..he then hires mostly all illegals and schools them in what to provide in fake documents. The scam works until Chico might get caught and then he bankrupts his company and starts another or heads back south to cool his heels and count his money. Everyone is in on the scam which results in lower wages for the legals and few taxes being paid and the builders (or the ag companies) can all plead ignorance and make political donations. Sounds like some good Financial Engineering, too!

    All it takes is a will to stop this and it can be done. But there never has been a will.

    • eubykdisop says:

      If we deal successfully with immigration issues, Westnash, then all we will have to worry about is Liberals like you who want to weaken our defense and restrict our right to keep and bear arms.

      “Westnash says:
      February 14, 2013 at 10:17 am
      I would propose an immediate 10% cut in all military expenditures including salaries. All of us can get by on 9 out of 10…..the govt. can as well…it is nothing but would make a huge dent in the problem.”

      “Westnash says:
      January 8, 2013 at 8:00 am
      There will be some changes in gun regulations at some point in 2013 and the Republicans who only tow the NRA line of “no” will lose. Wouldn’t you rather outsmart your opponent than trying unsuccessfully in throwing up a wall, that is crumbling down around you.”

  7. Westnash says:

    Yep it is Gabby or her husband who are already promoting themselves to run whom you better fear. They enjoy the camera more than Sarah Brady. The Republicans will never see it coming.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Yes, Westnash, we’ve heard that from you repeatedly. We have also heard this from you:

      “Westnash says:
      February 14, 2013 at 10:17 am
      I would propose an immediate 10% cut in all military expenditures including salaries. All of us can get by on 9 out of 10…..the govt. can as well…it is nothing but would make a huge dent in the problem.”

      “Westnash says:
      January 8, 2013 at 8:00 am
      There will be some changes in gun regulations at some point in 2013 and the Republicans who only tow the NRA line of “no” will lose. Wouldn’t you rather outsmart your opponent than trying unsuccessfully in throwing up a wall, that is crumbling down around you.”

      You will forgive us if we choose to ignore political advice from a Liberal who wants to weaken our military and curtail our 2nd Amendment rights.

      • Freedom First says:

        You’re bogus criticism of Montgomery might qualify you to be an editor for the New Times but it does not track with what he has done in office. So keep up with the connect the dot conspiracy theory analysis. You could also audition for MSNBC.

  8. eubykdisop says:

    Freedom First:

    “Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery Endorses Jeff Flake for Senate”

    “April 25, 2012″

    “PHOENIX – Jeff Flake, a conservative candidate for the United States Senate, today announced the endorsement of Maricopa County Attorney Bill Montgomery.”

    “Maricopa County, like other counties, is paying a high price for the federal government’s failure to secure the border and to stem the flow of violent crime and illegal drugs into this country,” said Montgomery. “Jeff Flake understands the consequences of federal inaction and what law enforcement needs to do to deal to with it. I support Jeff Flake for U.S. Senate because he will fight to hold the federal government accountable for its responsibilities and see that law enforcement in Maricopa County — and across Arizona — has the tools it needs to protect its residents.”

    “Bill Montgomery is a stalwart against the many challenges we face and is highly respected in our community as a result,” said Flake. “I am honored to receive his endorsement and will value his counsel in holding the federal Government to account for the safety of Arizona’s citizens.”

    Here’s the link to the mp3 of Montgomery criticizing Sheriff Arpaio:

    [audio src="http://media.phoenixnewtimes.com/4751095.0.mp3" /]

    Now what was that you were saying, Freedom First, about “bogus” and “conspiracy theory”? Why don’t you see if you can get on the staff of Jeff Flake and help him with amnesty for illegal aliens like a good Liberal.

    • Westnash says:

      Euby will criticize any poster who doesnt toe his narrow line. That line only leads to continuing election defeats except in districts that are so gerrymandered that they can eck out a token win but come away with no power.

      • eubykdisop says:

        P. S.: Have you noticed that Freedom First (aka Westnash) suddenly fell silent and hasn’t come back with any facts to refute my “bogus conspiracy theory”, LOL!

  9. eubykdisop says:

    Westnash:

    The “narrow line” is the one which separates Conservatives from Liberals like you who support gun control legislation, want to cut military spending by 10% across the board and who don’t want to spend a dime on securing the border.

    Republican election defeats come from listening to “moderates” like you who are really Liberals.

  10. Freedom First says:

    Some of us have a life outside the internet euby. What is wrong with support on the following: “Maricopa County, like other counties, is paying a high price for the federal government’s failure to secure the border and to stem the flow of violent crime and illegal drugs into this country,” said Montgomery. “Jeff Flake understands the consequences of federal inaction and what law enforcement needs to do to deal to with it. I support Jeff Flake for U.S. Senate because he will fight to hold the federal government accountable for its responsibilities and see that law enforcement in Maricopa County — and across Arizona — has the tools it needs to protect its residents.” And I have heard Montgomery speak about the Don Stapley/Nixon tape. It’s missing the first 30 minutes and if Sheriff Joe had such a problem why did he endorse Montgomery? They have had a strong partnership for Maricopa County with the Sheriff rounding them up and Montgomery prosecuting them. But I guess that doesn’t fit your twisted reality.

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