Palin ditches maverickism, considers 3rd party

The Hill reports that Sarah Palin is floating the idea of leaving the Republican Party, which she says is abandoning conservatives. 

Palin should know. She teamed up as the Vice Presidential running mate to the biggest betrayer of Republicans, her maverick friend (video) John McCain  —  and joyously proclaimed her allegiance to maverickism,(video) also.

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32 Responses to Palin ditches maverickism, considers 3rd party

  1. theprecinctproject says:

    Here’s the appropriate response to Palin, Levin, et al. who think it’s smarter to try to build a new political party from scratch rather than actually getting in the trenches at the precinct level:

    http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/01/palins-third-party-solution-is-part-of-the-problem/

    Thank you.
    Cold Warrior

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    http://www.redstate.com/coldwarrior

    • pcrcPC says:

      I have promoted coldwarrior today, but not too long ago had them or somebody that mentioned them refuse to promote urapc.org

      said the site wasn’t safe. sounds squirrely to me.

      how about supporting a conservative movement in blocking Medicaid expansion and supporting and promoting http://www.urapc.org

      and if I get questioned, im sure I kept the mail

      • LD 17 Voter says:

        Cold Warrior is right, a third party will only allow Democrats to win. Get in the trenches and rid the party of the non-conservatives, like McLiar.

      • eubykdisop says:

        And the proof of your claim that a third party will only allow Democrats to win is what, LD 17 Voter? What about independent Conservative candidates?

        We didn’t get a Conservative Republican Mayor of Phoenix. We didn’t get Conservative Republican U. S. Senators from Arizona.
        The definition of insanity is to continue to do the same thing while expecting a different outcome.

        With an independent candidate there is no party primary which can be gamed by RINOs. That is one obstacle out of the way right off the bat!

    • eubykdisop says:

      Why look as far away as Sarah Palin in looking for hypocrisy? Right here in Arizona we have Robert Graham who actually campaigned on “transparency” and “accountability”!

      Robert Graham – Transparency & Accountability

      • pcrcPC says:

        graham is a tool of karl rove, from what I have seen, A.J. LaFaro would be a wonderful replacement.

        nobody is perfect, but we need somebody who will uphold the platform, philosophy and ideology, and will publicly, loudly, vocalize when they are being abused..

      • eubykdisop says:

        “Jesus had Judas, Republicans have Governor Brewer.” – A. J. LaFaro

        Now what Conservative couldn’t like a guy who says that?

      • eubykdisop says:

        “Palin blasts Rubio as GOP ‘Judas'”

        “Sarah Palin expressed the outrage of many when she let fly with her opinion of the U.S. Senate’s recently passed amnesty bill, aiming her most vitriolic comment at Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla.”

        “Giving voice to the sentiment of many in his conservative base who feel betrayed by his embrace of the highly unpopular legislation, she alluded to the price paid biblical traitor Judas Iscariot in her tweet, “’Obama Calls Rubio to Congratulate Him on Immigration Reform.’ Hope it was worth 30 pieces of silver.”

        http://www.wnd.com/2013/07/palin-blasts-rubio-as-gop-judas/?cat_orig=politics

  2. LD 17 Voter says:

    About time. Now maybe she can again become the darling of Conservatives.

    • Observer says:

      She stumped the entire state for John McAmnesty when we had a conservative choice with J D Hayworth. Palin is no conservative! !

      • eubykdisop says:

        Well, let’s hear what J. D. himself had to say about that, shall we?

        “Hayworth: Palin supporting McCain as a favor”

        “By Jordan Fabian, 03/26/10″

        “Sen. John McCain’s (R-Ariz.) primary opponent said Friday that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin (R) is backing her former running mate as a political favor.”

        “But he added that Palin, who is a favorite of the conservative base and Tea Party movement from which he draws support, is endorsing McCain as a token of gratitude for making her the vice presidential nominee.”

        “We all understand the genuine human impulse of gratitude. And obviously John McCain gave Sarah Palin her entre to the national stage politically,” he said on MSNBC. “But with all due respect, it’s not going to be Sarah Palin from Alaska…Arizonans are going to determine who serves in the United States Senate.”

        “The ex-congressman expressed confidence he would win the primary and said he expects Palin to endorse him in the general election.”

        http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-primaries/89387-hayworth-palin-supporting-mccain-as-a-favor

  3. pcrcPC says:

    we all have those wishes of an instant third party full of conservatives that can challenge the progressive, and progressive lite parties. probably not very realistic.

    we have to change the republican party to reflect more conservative values. that begins by becoming a PC, if you are already a PC, recruit others who are conservative. we must overwhelm the progressives occupying the committees and the leadership. why do you think the leadership stays progressive? they control the party, surround themselves with other progressives and do not reach out to conservatives because the fear us.

    they abandon platform and principles in favor of lobbyist and special interest, yet accuse us conservative members of disloyalty and say WE are the ones destroying the party when in fact it is the sell out leadership that are abandoning us. then they call for “party loyalty” and to “stop the infighting”

    that attitude is what has brought us to where we are today. how many wish we would have booted McCain decades ago, and hes just one of many.

    people need to remember, when we let the traitors get away with lying to us, acting in opposite to what we elected them to do ignoring the platform OR NOT CONDEMNIG loudly, publicly and at every opportunity, those acting opposite of the platform, it then happens more blatantly and frequently and the dirty politicians and party leadership wont give a damn and wont change.

    you do not assist your destroyer just because they have an(R) next to their name on a ballot vs. a (D) you still end up just as dead.

    you get rid of them as rapidly as possible, and let them know we want them gone.

    if they violate our trust and the platform, they need to go. we can no longer allow them to lie to us and get away with it. politicians and party leadership who do not follow the platform or demand the platform be followed LOUDLY AND PUBLICLY must be replaced.

    doesn’t everybody wish we would have dumped McCain the first time he “reached across the isle” to work with Ted Kennedy and screwed his constituents? now hes part of the immovable machine.

    our silence and allowing party leadership and politicians to screw us without punishing them has gotten us to where we are today.

    you cant just get a “little” pregnant.

    the liars, deceivers and sellouts must go.

  4. Maggie says:

    Sarah Palin is a self promoting airhead who (for all intents and purposes) abandoned her husband and kids for self glorification as she travels the country and gives her nasal rendition of the news as a paid contriutor on FOX. I turn her off just as I do when the arrogant Karl Rove shows up.

  5. pcrcPC says:

    lots of palin haters here, kind of surprising. I like her myself, but don’t see her as a national candidate for anything. she probably could be a senator and she can definitely help others get elected.

    she does have a better record than rove in elections.

    palin expresses frustration that many of us feel. I have to say if any sort of amnesty(anything other than repatriation is amnesty) gets through the house and the senate, there are millions of us who will pretty much no longer participate in the election process.

    it will have become pointless.

    amnesty effectively kills the republican party and conservatism. 50+million new democrats are undefeatable, and the party don’t care.

    more interested in money from lobbyist and special interest. well that will end too once the party is destroyed.

    fools

    • Night Owl says:

      Palin also abandoned Alaska, leaving before she finished her term. It was inconvenient for her to honor her commitment to the people of the state she ran to lead, as she traveled the country on her book tour and hitting every camera along the way. She talked incessantly during the campaign how much she wanted her last baby. It seems impossible that she is actually raising him …or any of the others. Her husband probably doesn’t recognize her.

  6. personswithgrudges says:

    So, pcRCpc, do we have your word on that? A bill goes through the U.S. Senate, House, and is signed by “goofball” and you and your “millions” just give up?

  7. Andrew Costanzo says:

    Palin is once again following in the footsteps of the Manchurian Candidate, John Mc Amnesty. I believe that McCain’s number one goal is to destroy the Republican Party, as he, like Palin has advocated for a third party. McCain actions weaken the Republican Party. If you don’t agree, simply look at his associations and policies: “Campaign Finance Reform”, “McCain – Kennedy Education”, “Gang of Eight Amnesty”, and socialist “Government” bailouts of billions of dollars. If you think that Palin is such a conservative, how do you justify her endorsements of McCain over Hayworth or Adams over Salmon?

    • eubykdisop says:

      ROFL! Looking for a villain, Andrew? Better reframe that and look for “villains”! There isn’t just one, there are many in the “Republican” ranks! Here, let’s start off with the Republican National Committee!

      “The Republican National Committee (RNC) has released its long-awaited study on the 2012 elections, with detailed recommendations about how the party can improve its future.”

      “Whatever the merits of these suggestions, they mask the fundamental flaw of the report: a failure to acknowledge, much less learn from, the successes of the recent past–all of which were built on conservative revival.”

      “Instead, the report declares that the GOP is stuck in an “ideological cul-de-sac” and requires “a more welcoming conservatism.” To that end, the report insists that the party “must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform.” It also calls for Republicans to imitate the left’s identity politics, creating a “Growth and Opportunity Inclusion Council” composed of “nonwhites” who are meant to help increase diversity.”

      “There is nothing in the report about strengthening the Republican Party’s commitment to conservative principles–the winning formula in 1980, 1994, and 2010.”

      http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/03/18/Autopsy-Is-the-Right-Word-RNC-Releases-Report-on-Party-s-Future

      I’m wondering how many of those who are so opposed to the idea of third party are really Conservatives, as Liberals and Democrats would love to see Republicans bottled up within the parameters defined by the Republican National Committee! After all, they are the same parameters embraced by Obama, Schumer, Reid and Durbin!

    • sgt flapjaw says:

      Whenever a political figure such as Palin, or more recently, Rubio tie themselves to John McCain without thinking big picture, they will forever carry the “McCain Stain”. Poor judgment results in poor outcomes.

      • eubykdisop says:

        And Ronald Reagan was a Liberal Democrat who campaigned for Hubert Humphrey.

        Ronald Reagan LIBERAL DEMOCRAT

  8. LEO IN TSN says:

    Sarah Palin owed McAmnesty a favor and repaid it. She would have endorsed & supported JD Hayworth in an instant if she had been given the chance. But it was the Republican & Independent voters of AZ who sunk JD, not her. She is using her presence to advocate a return to the Republican platform for this Party, and for respect for the moral conservative party base.

    As AZ PC’s, it’s time to start fixing our own problems by looking close to home. Take for example the AZ4. The House has been putting together their own secret “immigration reform” packages, and the code they are using is “border security FIRST.” It should be “border security and ENFORCEMENT” with no parenthetical qualifiers. If they pass an amnesty bill of any sort, it will go to conference committee to be conformed to the Senate AMNESTY.

    Don’t let that happen. Melt down the phones, faxes and emails to the AZ4 and tell them “NO AMNESTY, NO WAY.” Secure the borders, enforce the laws and defund obamao. AMNESTY in any fashion is the sword over our necks – it will kill US, and AZ will be among the first to implode.

    Trent Franks phone: 202-225-4576 fax: 202-225-6328
    Paul McGosar Phone: (202) 225-2315 Fax: (202) 226-9739
    Matt McSalmon Phone: 202-225-2635 Fax: 202-226-4386
    David McSchweikert Phone: 202-225-2190 fax: 202-225-0096

    God bless America.

    • Orion says:

      Sorry Leo. There is no debt big enough to sell out the country for. McCain has betrayed us for years. He previously partnered with Kyl as the two of them worked against the conservative base. Now Jeff Flake is in the bag with the old liberal. Sarah Palin is a fool, adored by fools. She’s a lightweight, a McCainiac and a sell out.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Then, of course, we had a Liberal Democrat who campaigned for Hubert Humphrey.

        Ronald Reagan LIBERAL DEMOCRAT.

  9. Saguaro Sam says:

    And just so Mark Kelley stays (politically) relevant, he trots out poor Gabby on a shooting range in Las Vegas. And has her firing a weapon. (sorry, SRA, I just had to get this posted.)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2353443/Gabby-Giffords-pictured-firing-gun-time-Tucson-shooting.html

  10. JAKE says:

    As much as I would like to have a third party of conservatives, I also realize that such a party at this time is a pipe dream. It would take years to be come a viable party which could elect candidates that represent our views. Until then, we would be under the control of the left wing democrats. By the time we became powerful enough to make a difference, we would be illegal.

    I also agree that the correct thing to do would be to take back the republican party and work to remove or smother the RINOS and support those who value true conservative ideals. HOWEVER, I feel that we can not chastise every republican that disagrees with us no matter how minor the disagreement. First of all, we all do not all agree with each other now. To find someone who agrees with all of us all the time, we would end up having either a liar or a psychopath as a candidate. We do need to have some basic principals to stand by but we must have some room for disagreement.

    I saw Senator Cruz being criticized because of his immigration positions. Lets contact him and see if he will adjust his position or if he was misquoted or misunderstood. Working with him rather than throwing out what I feel is a strong conservative seems to be a better solution. We need to build not destroy the conservative membership. It will not take long for those of weak will (RINOS) to see that the real power is with the conservative. Lets not waste our energy fighting and calling attention to the RINOS, instead lets concentrate on supporting conservative candidates. RINOS will wither on the vine and will be replaced by strong conservative advocates. As I remembered, there were some areas that I disagreed with Ronald Regan as well, but he is still my man.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Conservative candidates don’t have to be part of a political party to run for office. They can run as independent candidates. So all or your concerns and dire predictions are baseless.

      What is becoming clear is that there are those who are desperate to keep Conservatives locked into a political party which keeps them safely “contained”. The last thing which “establishment” Republicans and Liberals want to see is Conservative candidates dumping the GOP and running independently. Offering voters a real choice would put an end to the “establishment” Republican game.

      Your indulgence in delusions continues with your baseless assertions about your “feet of clay” hero, Ted Cruz. Cruz was neither misquoted nor misunderstood. This is from HIS OWN WEBSITE:

      “Sen. Cruz Files Additional Amendments to Immigration Legislation”

      “Cruz 1324: Green Card (LPR) reform to modernize, streamline and expand legal immigration”

      “This amendment would streamline and simplify our legal immigration system by consolidating segmented visas, creating real and transparent caps, eliminating the diversity visa lottery, and treating all immigrants equally by eliminating the per-country caps.”

      “Provisions of his amendment include:
      •Doubling the overall worldwide green card caps from 675,000 visas per year to 1.35 million per year (not including refugees and asylees)”

      “Cruz 1325: Increase high-skilled temporary worker visas (H-1B visas) five-fold”

      “This amendment would improve our nation’s legal immigration system by increasing the H-1B cap from 65,000 to 325,000. It would also help America retain the people it educates by authorizing dual-intent student visas and address the need for high-skilled labor by creating a block grant to promote domestic high-skilled workers.”

      http://www.cruz.senate.gov/record.cfm?id=344112

      Doubling the number of green cards and a 500% increase in H-1B visas isn’t Conservative, it’s in line with the “immigration reform” of JOHN MCCAIN!

      • JAKE says:

        Your suggestion that conservative identify as independents is not my idea of a solution. Every independent I run into seems to have decided to drop out or has an attitude that they are above all of the political infighting. That’s not what we need. We need to fight for the republican party and use it as a vehicle to go after what we believe. Last thing we need is a bunch of people that are either negative or have a attitude. Join together and we have a bigger bat.

        I suspect you have more fun criticizing others than doing some thing constructive.

      • eubykdisop says:

        JAKE wrote: “Every independent I run into seems to have decided to drop out or has an attitude that they are above all of the political infighting.” Therefore all those who run as an independent will do the same. Illogical, JAKE.

        On the other hand, JAKE, if Conservatives confine themselves to operating only within the Republican Party, they may be rendered impotent, by design, until it is all over.

        JAKE wrote: “We need to fight for the republican party…” What we need to fight for, JAKE, is Conservatism, Republican Party or no Republican Party.

        JAKE wrote: “Last thing we need is a bunch of people that are either negative or have a attitude.” You mean like McCain, Flake, Graham, Brewer and Reince Priebus?

        JAKE wrote: “Join together and we have a bigger bat.” That doesn’t mean that we have to join under the Republican banner.

        JAKE wrote: “I suspect you have more fun criticizing others than doing some thing constructive.”

        Being critical of the thinking of those whose thinking is unsound is doing something constructive, JAKE.

  11. eubykdisop says:

    The Republican establishment has done and is doing everything in it’s power to keep Conservatives off the ballot. So why should all prospective Conservative candidates continue to allow themselves to be thwarted by the Republican establishment?

    If a Conservative were to run as an independent, voters would finally be permitted to have a real choice instead of a choice between Democrat and “Democrat Lite”.

    If a Conservative candidate running as an independent should win, then all of the Republican establishment theories about “demographics”, race based politics and the “need” for “immigration reform” would be soundly refuted. That is why those aligned with the Republican establishment are desperate to keep potential Conservative candidates locked within the Republican Party, to keep them safely “contained” where they can’t refute the establishment ideology.

    • JAKE says:

      I see that you have no qualms concerning misrepresenting other peoples words. I stated that independents I met had an attitude, You led people to believe that I extended it to all independents. If your going to use my words at least try to interpret them correctly.

      You also incorrectly suggested that when I wrote that conservatives should fight for the republican party I wanted us to keep the present leadership. Again a misunderstanding on your part or a deliberate misstatement to make your point while sacrificing the truth. This seems to be an ongoing problem.

      You last statement is quite true. If you are what you say you are, then we are on the same side. Are you arguing just to fill idle time?

      • eubkdisop says:

        JAKE wrote: “I see that you have no qualms concerning misrepresenting other peoples words.” Really, JAKE? Is that so? Let’s look at what you wrote and find out, shall we?

        You made a comment about “Every independent I run into…”. Then you stated, “That’s not what we need.” AND you offered an alternative: ” We need to fight for the republican party…”

        So you started with “Every independent I run into…”, stated “that’s not what we need” and then steered readers to fighting for the Republican Party instead. So, like Bill Clinton, you did not have “sex” with that woman.

        Your words were not “misrepresented”. It is clear that you would have Conservatives spend their time “fighting” for the Republican Party. Conservatives don’t need to spend their time and energy fighting for the Republican Party. They need to spend their time and energy getting genuine Conservatives elected to office. That’s pretty self-obvious, JAKE.

        Think about it, JAKE. Suppose Conservatives “fight for the Republican Party” but get not a single Conservative elected to office. How has that benefitted Conservatives?

        JAKE wrote: “You also incorrectly suggested that when I wrote that conservatives should fight for the republican party I wanted us to keep the present leadership.”

        I see that you have no qualms concerning misrepresenting other peoples words, JAKE. Where did I suggest that? Please quote the statement to which you refer.

        No, JAKE, I don’t see us as being on the same side. What is the difference between us?

        I am open to having Conservative candidates run as independent candidates. The advantage of that is that there would at least be a Conservative on the ballot, providing voters with a real, genuine choice. You want to operate within the Republican Party which means that Conservative candidates can get eliminated in the party primary process, resulting in no Conservative on the ballot. This is, in fact, what has actually happened.

        The issue for me, JAKE, is that the Republican “establishment” has sought and is seeking to keep Conservative candidates off the ballot. They want to promote their “Democrat Lite” candidates and what they most fear is that voters will have a choice of voting for a real Conservative instead of their pick. Furthermore, they know, by history, that if a genuine Conservative gets on the ballot and gets the Conservative message out that the Conservative will beat their candidate.

        I see the Republican establishment as trying to keep Conservatives operating within the party so that they can keep Conservatives off the ballot. The current Republican Party process has brought us John McCain and Jeff Flake. I would say that is prima facie evidence that the Republican Party process doesn’t work for Conservatives. It is time to start trying alternative approaches.

  12. eubykdisop says:

    “Study: Republicans Leaving Party Are Tired of ‘Two Evils’ Argument”

    “by Joel B. Pollak, 2 Jul 2013″

    “The Frontier Lab study includes both conservative and moderate Republicans, and identified four key events that prompted individuals to “disaffiliate” from the party. One was the rejection of the “lesser of two evils” argument–the argument that voters had to support a bad Republican because the Democratic candidate would invariably be worse.”

    “A second event was a loss of hope in the Republican Party–a sentiment connected to the feeling that the party could no longer deliver on its promises because leaders had abandoned their principles.”

    “A third reason that Republicans had decided to detach themselves from the party label was “affiliation with a new community”–primarily the Tea Party, Sorock says, which offers the kind of “camaraderie” that the GOP itself no longer provides its members.”

    “Finally, a fourth reason Republicans identified for leaving was “perceived betrayal by the GOP establishment.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/02/Study-Republicans-Leaving-Party-Are-Tired-of-Two-Evils-Argument

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