Fulton Brock: We’ve all had enough

In calling for Maricopa County Supervisor Fulton Brock to step down amid the growing inconsistencies in his stories regarding his child molesting wife and daughter, the daily echoes the thoughts of many — including this blog and numerous commenters.

Both Susan Brock, 48, and Rachel Brock 21, molested the same boy starting when he was 14 years old. Susan Brock was sentenced to 13 years in prison earlier this month.  Rachel, who confided her involvement to her mother,  is currently incarcerated and is awaiting trial.

When the sordid allegations against Susan Brock first surfaced, sympathy was with Fulton Brock, who called the revelations “a shocking emotional punch to (his) heart.” It has since been revealed that he was not only aware of the ongoing sexual abuse of a minor, but desired to blame the victim, use his position to wrangle a release of his wife whom he said he was divorcing, and devise ways of covering up the full extent of the crimes. When he employed the services of a public relations firm to handle his announcements, it struck a bizarre note. Among its services the firm advertises “crisis communications.” Fulton Brock is listed as part of their “fan club.”

The complicity of his LDS Church leaders is also disturbing. That they were called in on this matter rather than the police is unsettling.  That their stories conflict with police reports reeks of an unsavory cover-up.

In an ongoing effort to be sensitive to what appeared to be Fulton Brock’s plight, Seeing Red AZ originally used one page to give updates as the saga unraveled.

We broke from that perspective in this April 8, 2011 post, when we concluded: “There is a deep sickness that has infected this family. Supervisor Brock should have come forward at the onset of his knowledge. Questions are beginning to swirl about him.”

21 Responses to Fulton Brock: We’ve all had enough

  1. Maggie says:

    Thank you! Thank you! My thoughts exactly! At first I felt sympathy for Fulton Brock. Now I feel disgust. It turns out he was aware of this ongoing molestation by his wife and daughter when he acted so shocked. He was also involved in the discussions of these crimes with church leaders instead of the police.

  2. Another LD11 PC says:

    Don’t underestimate the Mormon mafia either in private life or their caucus at the state legislature.

    • Vince says:

      I disagree with your “Mormon Mafia” portrayal, LD 11 PC, but they sure have circled the wagons in this bizarre criminal episode. The church’s business is faith. Criminal investigations belong with law enforcement. The church’s involvement in this case sickens me.

  3. Matt DeGennaro says:

    I hold Fulton Brock at the same level of contempt reserved for his perverted wife and daughter. How dare he not take this pedophilia to law enforcement? Ditto the Church Bishops. This concept of religion covering for child molesters was rife within the Catholic Church and they shelled out hundreds of millions of dollars for their complicity. The LDS Church equally is not above the law. This is a colossal black eye for them.

    • Tyler M says:

      Matt DeGennaro-

      The two cases are completely different. In one case, it was rampant sexual abuse by Catholic Priests & Bishops themselves across the United States & many other countries of the world. This abuse included a widespread cover-up & multiple transfers of known abusers within the Catholic Church after years of abusing multiple victims.

      The Brocks were not Mormon clergy. There was no transferring of the Brocks by the Mormon Church to different congregations where they could find new victims. There weren’t countless victims here either. The Mormon Church didn’t institute some massive cover-up here. And I’m not saying this in any way to attack the Catholic Church either. It’s just that this horrible situation of abuse is not comparable to what has happened on a massive scale at the hands of Catholic priests who doubled as sexual predatores.

      When unpaid lay Mormon Church leaders were apparently told about suspicions, they were not given any evidence of wrongdoing & all they could do was help the victim in his process of reporting what was at that time alleged crimes to law enforcement authorities. And it appears that at that time, the victim wasn’t even alleging anything at all. His parents were worried & they wanted answers & asked their Mormon Church leaders for help because they were afraid that something horrible was happening to their son. But from reports of the situation at the time, the boy, himself, appeared to have been embarrassed about the horrible things that were happening to him, and maybe for this reason was keeping his mouth shut. What the Mormon Church lay leaders knew was that the boy’s parents were suspicious & that Susan Brock denied doing anything wrong while her husband was present.

      To this day, there doesn’t appear to be any animosity by the victim or by the victim’s family toward the way that Mormon Church officials handled the situation. They would be the ones who would say, we think that these religious officials didn’t take this situation seriously, covered what was happening to benefit the Brocks, or just brushed the whole thing under the rug. I have read nothing to suggest that the victim or his family feel anything like this went on in the Mormon Church. And from what I can tell, they still appear to be actively involved in their local Mormon congregations, which would be one sign that they trust that their Church leaders did the best they could for the victim.

      It wasn’t until the boy admitted to his girlfriend’s mother what had really been going on that the proper law enforcement authorities were alerted.

      In such horrible situations, we have to feel for child victims of sexual abuse, but too often cases are not brought forward because it is so difficult for victims to come to grips with what was happening to them. They don’t want to admit to themselves that such horrible things could happen, so it would naturally be difficult to admit such things to other people either.

      Hopefully, this situation teaches us all something about how to better recognize the signs of abuse. I feel for the victim & his family & hope that they can get all of the help that they need.

      • Stanford says:

        Tyler,
        I understand being faithful to the religion one is raised in or chooses to follow. What I do not understand the blind, lockstep loyalty to the tradition of the church hierarchy interceding as counselors in criminal matters. It is nearly as obscene as the acts of pedophilia, since the idea of “encouraging“ reporting is not nearly good enough. It makes no difference if they are “unpaid” or “lay” clergy, they have an obligation as good, moral, citizens to report such criminal activity–especially as it relates to sexual abuse of children. They can offer to accompany the offenders to the police station, but only “encouragement“ is not nearly good enough. This exposure is not a plus for the LDS community, regardless of how many church members post comments to defend the indefensible.

        Also, to say the victim and his family don’t appear to hold any animosity toward the way Mormon Church officials handled the situation, is ridiculous. They have been brainwashed to regard this approach as normal and to revere the Bishops. If a 14-year-old girl engages in consensual sex with a 20 -year-old man, it is still rape. The Brock’s victim and his family were close family friends with the offenders and he, a child, was manipulated in countless ways by the perverted Brock family. It’s appalling that you would bring that into the equation. Can’t you admit that something is terribly wrong with this scenario? Weren’t you ever taught to think for yourself? I’d hate to have someone with your mentality on the police force or sitting on the court.

        And Tyler: Length of argument does not make for a better argument.

      • Marianne says:

        Oh, I see. The victim and his parents are OK with the years of molestations by the Brocks? After all the boy got expensive gifts, BJs and sex from Mom Susan and daughter Rachel, and a good coverup by Hubby/Dad Fulton. Then the church weighed in and did nothing. No harm, no foul, Tyler?

        This sounds like a round about way of blaming the victim. Disgusting!

  4. Ellsworth says:

    The obscene handling of this case by church officials is par for the course, folks. And don’t for a minute think Fulton Brock is a ‘victim’ here. He is complicit.

  5. EVRed says:

    Before you throw too many stones at the LDS bishop(s) who were consulted in this matter it would be a good idea to review A.R.S. § 13-3620(A)which covers who must report suspected child abuse and the exemptions. Also there is an interesting clergy-penitent privilege in A.R.S § 13-4062(3)for court testimony. My read of 13-3620 seems to take the bishops off the hook legally if not morally. Correct information is a real buzz kill for bigotry, isn’t it?

    http://ChildAbuseReportingLaw

    • Ellsworth says:

      If you’re referring to me, let’s just say I’m in a position to “throw a stone or two.” If you’re addressing this site, I think they have been very fair in their handling of this sordid mess, and Supervisor Brock.

      My question to you, EVRed is: Shouldn’t we expect clergy (of any denomination) to conduct themselves in a moral manner, regardless of what the legal parameters might be?

      I refuse to address your fallacious “bigotry” slur.

      • Tyler M says:

        Ellsworth-

        You have shown bias against the Mormon Church throughout this case. The bigotry slur against you is not “fallacious”. Saying that anything in this horrible ordeal is “par for the course” for Mormons or the Mormon Church reveals your true motives here.

        At the same time, we should be attacking Susan Brock & Rachel Brock for the disgusting crimes that they have committed, but blaming others (including church officials who weren’t there, didn’t abuse anybody & have said that they helped the victim report the crimes) takes blame off of the child predators who committed the horrible crimes against that boy.

        Regarding Fulton Brock, he should resign now because his stories don’t match up & he should probably be prosecuted for lying to police & obstructing justice in the investigations of his wife & daughter. Just because he is related to one convicted & one accused criminal does not give him grounds to cover up either or their illegal actions. That is especially true for a person in public office.

  6. amattclarkson says:

    The Brock’s story is one of the worst stories ever. As for Fulton Brock himself, he did what just about anyone else in his position would have done. Of course, we hold him to a higher standard because he is an elected official, which is fine. I can’t tell him what to do, but personally, the second I knew anything, I would have gotten myself out of the spotlight and tried to get my house in order.

  7. Angie says:

    All the comments above bring home the need to throw out all the MCBOS out and start fresh,
    with more ethical candidates, AND, to limit the terms they may serve!

    • Tyler M says:

      Angie-

      Term limits is not the answer. It doesn’t solve anything. At the State Capital, one of the horrible side effects of term limits is that lobbyists & legislative staffers, who are not term limited, have even more power.

      This whole, “throw all the bums out” mentality is very short-sited. What we do need to do is pay attention to what our elected officials are doing & if they do things that are wrong, we need to make sure they know that we know it.

      We need to “throw all bad politicians out”, yes, but not all politicians out. I can name a handful of very good retired politicians who I wish were still serving in office or others who serve today who I hope never retire. I wouldn’t have minded another term for Ronald Reagan. And I am sad that Senator Jim DeMint has promised to only serve two terms in the US Senate. I wish that Russell Pearce could be Arizona Senate President for life, unless he can become Governor for life or maybe even President ;). I hated when Matt Salmon was stupid enough to make a term limits pledge, which is why we suffer through Jeff Flake today. But, of course, anybody can change. So, that’s why we need to pay attention to what politicians are up to. But we shouldn’t make blanket statements about getting rid of everybody.

      Or as the old saying goes, we “don’t [want to] throw the baby out with the bath water”.

      • East Valley PC says:

        Are you the same Tyler M who also comments on liberal blogs and uses the idiotic line “my bad?” If so, that might be why not many people put credence in your opinions. You sound like a valley girl. Incidentally, as a conservative I don’t read those sites, but a friend told me about it. It provided my belly laugh for the day.

  8. East Valley PC says:

    If Fulton Brock had either a shred of integrity or a glimmer of class, he would step down.

  9. ex clerk says:

    I used to see a lot of pre-sentencing reports written by probation officers at the request of Superior Court judges prior to sentencing in sexual assault cases like this. Time and again these reports included the information that the adults involved had been to counseling with Bishops or Elders of the LDS Church. Later, with the abuse continuing, a school employee or someone else would finally contacted a law enforcement agency. Then a decison was made to have these reports “sealed”, limiting public and media access to this information and all the information in the probation department’s report. I do not know if this is still the policy or procedure. I saw enough that I believe there is a pattern that endangers children and young teens. The statutes define who “must” report. Any adult SHOULD report these cases. No member of the clergy has to invoke the clergy-penitent privilege, it is a choice to do so. This is a community that has abandoned it’s children to this type of abuse.

    • EVRed says:

      I’m curious “ex clerk” did you ever see any such references in DRs involving, Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, etc? Was it always and only LDS?
      I’ve seen thousands of police DRs and can’t single out one organization as consistently being involved in such situations. Just curious.

      • ex clerk says:

        None that I remember from the probation office reports. Just LDS. By the time these reports are written, the person has been convicted. I was always amazed how often it came up. By this time the person would be wanting to score points with a sentencing judge and they viewed that they had gone to counseling as a positive for them. Many pastors from other demonination no longer involve themselves in family counseling to begin with. They refer families to licensed therapists, some churches pay these fees for their families.
        I’m a former law enforcement officer and being female, started my career following up with victims of assault. You are correct DR’s and supplementals are entirely different. This was out of state, in a very large urban area.

  10. Ellsworth says:

    This is the headline in today’s newspaper. Tyler.

    Experts: Church erred in Brock sex case: Church leaders held back key details, officials say
    This is the article:
    http://www.azcentral.com/community/chandler/articles/2011/04/24/20110424brock-molestation-case-church-reports.html

    Read it and pay attention to the chronology of the events and the police reports. You are so steeped in what you are told that you have become unable to discern truth from fiction. Then you blast out and call people bigots when they disagree with you. I am not bigoted against the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (although I am not longer associated with the faith) but that is the name calling refuge you take when someone disagrees with LDS strategy in dealing with crimes among the brethren.

    Believe this: You are doing more harm than good to the church you wish to defend. The leadership withheld critical information regarding the insidious crime of pedophilia. The church and its leaders are not infallible and they sure screwed up this time.

    Just as the church in 1978 changed its position on blacks being ineligible to be ordained to the priesthood, after President Spencer Kimball received a “revelation,” they best change this position on clergy cover-ups via in house “counseling.” President Monson needs to receive a “revelation” ASAP.