“Gang of 8” amnesty hawks attack effective voices

McCain-led coalition aims to discredit knowledgeable immigration control organizations

The birthdays of Presidents Washington and Lincoln have morphed into a single day that has lost any semblance of the original commemorations. Sales have replaced tributes. There are minor inconveniences of no trash pick-up or mail delivery.  Libraries and government offices are closed. But the sharp mind of former U. S. Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) continues to perform and inform.

Townhall carries Tancredo’s excellent column, “Immigration and the Pro-Life Movement.”

His commentary opens with “There has not even been an amnesty bill introduced yet in the U.S. Senate, and key Republican members of the “Gang of Eight” are panicking.”  This piqued our interest since two of the gangsters are Arizona senators — the deceptive John McCain and his open-borders protégé Jeff Flake.

Tancredo concludes with this pithy thought: “Just as any Republican with half a brain should be skeptical when someone like Senator John McCain (as in McCain/Kennedy Amnesty Bill) lectures us on immigration issues, they should be just as suspicious when the likes of Grover Norquist, the Catholic Council of Bishops or La Raza put targets on the backs of Numbers USA, FAIR and the Center for Immigration Studies* and gets front page coverage in The Washington Post. I can assure you that none of the aforementioned band of brothers are out to protect conservatives.”

Tom Tancredo’s credentials on the subject are impeccable.  He represented Colorado’s 6th Congressional District from 1999 until 2009 where he chaired the 100+ member bipartisan Immigration Reform Caucus. He currently serves as co-chairman of Team America PAC and president of the Rocky Mountain Foundation. He authored “In Mortal Danger: The Battle for America’s Border and Security.

Get up to speed. Refresh your memory with this Feb. 2, post.

*Seeing Red AZ has taken the liberty of inserting the links to these three organizations. We urge our readers to acquaint themselves with their efforts.


28 Responses to “Gang of 8” amnesty hawks attack effective voices

  1. Clair Van Steenwyk says:

    My concern is how Obama isn’t protecting the border which will give the GOP something that they’ll bargain for to make it look like they did something when in fact they’re all in this together and most will believe we got a good deal. The only thing they need to do is what Ike did in 56 and then Secure Our Borders and Enforce Our Laws, if they can’t do that then none of them should ever be re-elected or promoted to any higher office including Rubio / Paul as they’re in the middle of this as well. We the People are supposed to be protected from invasion and this certainly qualifies as one. God Bless You All; Van

    • Westnash says:

      What I worry that the Secure Our Borders bunch really wants is to spend Billions more in hiring and fences which do nothing but increase the size of Govt. The old Border Patrol was plenty large to arrest and deport the bad guys but there was no political support and much resistance from large Ag companies and builders. Dont give Government more money to work with…it never works!

      • eubykdisop says:

        You also worry about spending to keep our military strong and effective, Westnash.

        “Westnash says:
        February 14, 2013 at 10:17 am
        I would propose an immediate 10% cut in all military expenditures including salaries. All of us can get by on 9 out of 10…..the govt. can as well…it is nothing but would make a huge dent in the problem.”

        At the same time, you support Obama’s gun control legislation.

        “Westnash says:
        January 8, 2013 at 8:00 am
        There will be some changes in gun regulations at some point in 2013 and the Republicans who only tow the NRA line of “no” will lose. Wouldn’t you rather outsmart your opponent than trying unsuccessfully in throwing up a wall, that is crumbling down around you.”

        I don’t think that Conservatives need advice from a Liberal like you.

      • Westnash says:

        Yes Euby, I worry about the wasteful excesses in military spending such as programs the military didnt ask for and an inability to control costs.

        Dont give the Government more money….it never works!

      • eubykdisop says:

        Yes, Westnash, I have noticed what you are worried about spending money on. You worry about spending money on securing our border and on keeping our military strong. Funny how you never mention all of those Liberal programs Obama is spending money on.

    • Delilah says:

      But Clair, you endorsed Doug Little for the Party chair, did you not? Doug Little called us all extremeist for our Immigration views.

  2. East Valley PC says:

    John McCain is a phony. He campaigned as a supporter of building a fence, but in truth he never had any desire to do so. He is, and always has been, a liberal, who hid behind the term “maverick” thinking it gave him western flavored credentials as he worked hand in glove with Democrats. Jeff Flake is a libertarian, who as a congressman promoted himself to his East Valley constituents as a conservative, when that has never been the case with him, either. Flake and McCain are cut from the same lying mold as McCain and Kyl were. There’s an old adage about getting the elected officials you deserve. But in this case none of us deserved this wholesale deception. Our kids sure don’t deserve the way these efforts will reconfigure America. Granting amnesty to those who have no use for our laws or our culture in order to win votes, is taking us down a perilous path. I’m a conservative elected precinct committeeman and despise the so called “bi-partisan” efforts of these two lefties.

    • eubykdisop says:


      2003-2004: Cosponsored bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty (McCain).

      Sen. McCain cosponsored S. 1461, to create a legalization process for almost all illegal aliens who will then be eligible for green cards after 6 years. Amnesty has been shown to increase rates of illegal immigration. The bill, sponsored by Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), did not come to a vote.

      2003-2004: Cosponsored DREAM Act to reward illegal aliens with amnesty (Hatch).

      S. 1545 would have rewarded illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would have qualified for this amnesty. Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) was the primary sponsor.

      2005-2006: Cosponsored a bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty (Durbin).

      S. 2075 would reward illegal aliens under the age of 21, who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above, with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would qualify for this amnesty. Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) was the main sponsor of this bill. The bill died in the Judiciary Committee.

      2006: Voted against an amendment to end amnesty provisions.

      Sen. McCain voted against the Vitter amendment (SA 3963) to S. 2611, which removes provisions authorizing the earned legalization and agricultural worker amnesty schemes that would 2007-2008: Cosponsored AgJOBS to reward illegal agricultural workers with amnesty (Feinstein).

      2007-2008: Cosponsored AgJOBS to reward illegal agricultural workers with amnesty (Feinstein).

      Sen. McCain is a cosponsor of S. 340 to reward illegal immigration by protecting illegal aliens granted temporary resident status from prosecution for Social Security fraud. Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) was the main sponsor of this bill.

      2007-2008: Cosponsored a bill to reward illegal aliens with amnesty (Durbin).

      S. 774 would reward illegal aliens under the age of 21 who have been physically present in the country for five years and are in 7th grade or above with amnesty. An estimated 500,000 to 600,000 illegal aliens would qualify for this amnesty. Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) is the main sponsor of this bill.

      2007-2008: Voted against an amendment to strip amnesty provisions from a bill.

      Sen. McCain voted against the Vitter Amendment to strip the amnesty provisions from S. 1348. The Vitter Amendment failed by a vote of 29 to 66.

      2007-2008: Voted against an amendment to bar certain criminals from amnesty.

      Sen. McCain voted against the Cornyn Amendment (SA 1184) to S. 1385 to bar criminal aliens from receiving amnesty. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff has estimated that 15% of illegal aliens are criminals. The Cornyn Amendment failed by a vote of 46 to 51.

  3. truth or consequences says:

    When all is said and done, John McCain is the one person who is responsible for the demise of the Republican party and the end of our representative form of government. To quote the Manchurian Candidate John McCain, “We have nothing to fear from an Obama administration.” No, not much John, just the end of our country. Your treasonous behavior is beyond description. Benedict Arnold will hold you in great esteem when you two meet in the same abode for eternity.

    • JPD (@JPD321) says:

      McCain is a traitor of public trust, has been for decades, a master of deception with media assistance like McWicki and Resneck aka Gannett Media. McCain went along with the NWO and gave us Obama – remember “but but I know Obama, he is a decent man.” If McCain would have campaigned as hard for president (2008) as he did to keep his senate seat (2010) two faced flip flopping election time hard shift to the right McCain would have been in the White House.

      Heck Romney, another supporter of World Banksters pissed his (2012) campaign millions away in states he was heavily favored in by filing lawsuits to keep no chance libertarians off ballots. Wouldn’t that money have been better spent in key battle states where he was not favored and lost by slim margins? Romney didn’t want it either where one of his sons slipped up and stated so after the election. Than the Rove flop that was to be launched on election day that wasn’t even beta tested.

      Ask yourself why someone in the US Senate with his so called “institutional status” would want give up that status and be president? McCain never wanted it, he was put up to make sure Obama got in to move CHANGE along – McCain is a modern day closet progressive, remember Theodore Roosevelt. And now he has (proven progressive) Jeffery Lane Flake, his NO EARMARK façade (US HOUSE) counterpart reaching back for McCain to pass his baton, so his politics continue via McFake.

  4. Annie O. says:

    Yes, and we won’t forget that AZRTL had to manipulate McCain’s pro-life votes in 2010 to get him up into the 80’s, even close to Hayworth’s 100 percent lifetime rating. NRTL had McCain at 77percent.
    So now McCain needs the prolife issue? How pathetic!

    • Proudly ProLife says:

      Good reminder! Arizona Right to Life has become a leader in the McCain Toady camp.
      John Jakubczyk has always been a willing sellout to his “close friend” John McCain.
      On the group’s website it says that “the rubric used to analyze each candidate is based upon these three parameters.”
      1) Answers to our questionnaire
      2) Voting record, if present
      3) Electability (primary races)

      So if you have a staffer fill out their form in the manner they know is expected, pick up the tab for a couple of tables at the yearly fundraiser (even though King McCain himself never attends), and have a good prospect of winning because you are deeply entrenched and well funded, AZ Right to Life will endorse you over a candidate with a better pro-life record. Swell! What shameless hypocrisy!

  5. eubykdisop says:

    Watch John McCain explain how “probationary legal status” is not amnesty.

  6. eubykdisop says:

    This is OFF TOPIC but it’s nice to have some GOOD news for Conservatives on President’s Day:

    “Movie superstar hits bull’s-eye with guns blazing”

    “Famous 2nd-Amendment defender scores big with filmgoers”

    “by Michael Thompson”

    “WASHINGTON – Hollywood legend Bruce Willis’ latest entry in the “Die Hard” franchise took No. 1 in the box office over the long President’s Day weekend, bucking a trend of flops by his “Expendables” co-stars Arnold Schwarzenegger and Sylvester Stallone.”

    “Both Stallone and Schwarzenegger’s recent box office flops come at a time when they decided to label the Second Amendment “expendable.”

    “In contrast to Stallone and Schwarzenegger, Willis, starring in “It’s a Good Day to Die Hard,” had come out in defense of the right to bear arms as Democrats in Washington propose unprecedented restrictions on guns.”


    “Yippie-ki-yay”, Hollywood!

  7. Westnash says:

    Tancredo had the issue early but failed in building support and just ended up looking as a hispanic hater. I dont thnk he was but without building the necessary support you end up sawing the iceberg out from under you….just what Tom did.

    • Clementine says:

      McCain never wanted to repeal Roe v. Wade. Listen to him. He calls abortion an “unpleasant procedure” (especially for the dead baby) and wants to go back to the pre-Reagan platform of 1980 and ‘84 and include abortion in the GOP platform. Yet AZRTL endorsed him? Either they are brain dead or he’s a wizard.

    • eubykdisop says:

      So Tancredo has failed in your eyes as well, Westnash. That fits with your Liberal point of view!

      “Westnash says:
      January 11, 2013 at 3:41 am
      Obviously, Euby, it is easy for you to blame Marxism, but impossible to offer a solution for the Arizona Republicans. Hopefully there is someone in the party smarter than you.”

      • Westnash says:

        Not only in my eyes, Euby, in the eyes of the voters as well. Career didnt go far did it?

        Democrats love you!

      • eubykdisop says:

        Another poor defense from a Liberal who wants to cut military spending, spend no money on securing the border and who supports gun control legislation.

  8. eubykdisop says:

    In addition to supporting the Liberal position on amnesty, McCain is also supporting the Liberal position on gun legislation.

    “John McCain: Background Checks Will Get Broad Support In Senate”

    “The Huffington Post | By Mollie Reilly”

    “Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) said Sunday that he expects bipartisan legislation expanding background checks on gun purchases to have broad support in the Senate.”

    “There’s some senators, bipartisan, again, Senator Coburn and Senator Manchin and some others who are working on a package that I think that most of us will be able to support,” McCain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I applaud their efforts.”

    “McCain continued, “Obviously, we want to do everything we can to prevent guns from falling into the hands of people who are mentally unbalanced or criminals.”


    • Night Owl says:

      Another good point raised against Señor McCain. Those who voted for him and his new buddy Jeff Flake should be horsewhipped. How many times do we have to have them poke their fingers in our eyes before we wake up?

      And look at who they’ve aligned with on this atrocious amnesty of Obama’s.
      These are the Democrats:
      Dick Durbin who authored the original DREAM Act.
      Robert Menendez, a pervert who travels out of the country to visit underage prostitutes.
      Chuck Schumer, who carried Ted Kennedy’s water on this monstrosity legalization of invaders.
      Michael Bennet who is the chairman of the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, looking to make points with the left.

      Marco Rubio who see this as his route to the White House.
      Jeff Flaky who has long pushed for opening relations with Communist Cuba, and is a longtime advocate of open borders with Mexico.
      Lindsey Gramnesty: McCain’s favorite brown noser (until Flake won his heart).

      Liberals have repeatedly told us Arizonans had a black eye due to implementing SB1070, a reasonable way of addressing having our nation invaded. The truth is, Arizona should hang it’s collective head in shame having two of these amnesty liars leading this pack of illegal collaborators

      • eubykdisop says:

        The fact that we have not one but two U. S. Senators, Night Owl, who stand in direct opposition to the will of the people of Arizona regarding immigration, at ground zero for the illegal invasion, makes me seriously question the integrity of our election process.

  9. Delilah says:

    Stop all pensions, make all “public servants” pay Social Security, give them ObamaCare no fabulous health care, get Independents out of our primary. We will never see McLiar or McFluke again.

  10. LEO IN TSN says:

    McAmnesty purchased his endorsements in the primary of 2010 against a conservative American patriot. He bought an endorsement from AZRTL for a big handful of beer-sodden McHensley dollars, and he stole an endorsement from NRA for corrupt promises about pending federal legislation. The third leg of his shakey stool was the endorsement of the corrupt AZ sanctuary county sheriffs. These were the TV high points of his $23 million campaign of lies and distortions, funded by the usual open-borders suspects. AZ and US lost.

    We must have a border fence. A properly built, multi-layered, technologically-reinforced wall complex is the easiest answer to border security and would not cost any additional tax dollars. As soon as construction started, it would be paying for itself in all of the savings that would accrue in the social and legal costs of illegal aliens and their victims. Excessive cost is just a red herring constantly used by the open borders crowd, and obviously untrue. Construction activities would also created tens of thousands of American jobs, pouring hundreds of millions of dollars into the communities along the border.

    Such a fence, as soon as construction started, would drastically reduce the smuggling of drugs and aliens into the country, probably by 80 – 90% by completion. It would also cause many illegals to self-deport while they could. While the border is being secured, we could actually start enforcing the immigration laws. CAUTION: in this passionate debate, don’t let the libs get away with ignoring the many terrorists & professional criminals who are a big part of this invasion, and whose peers and partners continue to flood across our open borders. To DREAM them into legality is suicidal.

    God bless America.

  11. Delilah says:

    What many of you do not realize is these politicians live in gated communities, or Penthouses like McLiar, their lives are not even intertwined with the illegals unless they bring them out for a photo op. Until we change the rules these Politicians will continue treating us like we work for their bloated salaries and pensions.

  12. Tim says:

    On “horsewhipping” Flake’s voters, there aren’t enough whips to go around. Flake won the R primary with 69% of the vote. He had three challengers and a couple of write ins. The biggest challenger was Wil Cardon, who spent $9.8 million in the primary and only got 21% of R’s to vote for him.

    Do what you need to do, but maybe start by acknowledging Flake is really well liked among Republican primary voters even when they had plenty of other choices.

    • East Valley Conservative says:

      Are you kidding, Tim? Jeff Flake squeaked into that senate seat in as close as race as we’ve see in years. Richard Carmona, with little statewide name ID was close to Flake from the get-go. Flake won by 3.9 %, not exactly a runaway. As to the primary you so proudly point to, the vicious ad campaign supporting Flake against Wil Cardon turned off many voters. I’m a lifelong East Valley conservative who knows the Flake family well enough that I would never vote for Jeff Flake. He’s never been a conservative. He’s a libertarian. So I voted for the actual libertarian in the race.
      Jeff Flake is as big a phony as I’ve known. Carmona is a democrat, but both of Flake’s endorsers McCain and Kyl were hot to trot for him as Surgeon General. The thing that made Carmona palatable to me is the fact that he is considerably older and wouldn’t be there nearly as long as the very Flaky Flake.

      Then when this was used against Flake, McCain and Kyl called the use of their own public words “dishonest.”
      All three of these guys are dishonest and I’m not including Carmona.