Trump retreats from his stance on illegal invasion

Inconsistent ramblings on key issue trouble conservatives

Donald Trump has opened a commanding lead in Republican national presidential polls, sprinting ahead of the crowded GOP field with a 20 percent lead in Thursday’s Quinnipiac survey. His numbers are also soaring in Arizona where the Phoenix-based MBQF Consulting survey reports he holds “a staggering 2 to 1 advantage over his closest opponent.”

Most political observers base Trump’s strong showing on the fact that he gives a voice to the frustrations of Americans who are primed to hear a candidate meaningfully address the deplorable and costly illegal invasion that is flooding  our country unabated. Here in the border state of Arizona, 5.000 people stood in line in searing July temperatures to hear and cheer his message at the packed Phoenix Convention Center.

Now Powerline, a reliably conservative site, runs a provocative post, titled “Trump goes soft on immigration.” In his column John Hinderaker uses Trump’s disturbing quotes from this bizarre CNN interview, which also rates coverage on Breitbart.

To refer to Trump’s views as inconsistent would be generous. In truth his incoherent ramblings appear to be indistinguishable from those of any Democrat as he calls for “legal status,” immediately after saying he would deport all in the United States illegally and then allow the “good ones” to reenter through an “expedited process” and live here legally, though not as citizens.

But, “later down the line, who knows what’s going to happen?” he muses. He clarified that this meant citizenship would be “something I would think about, but I would say right now no. I’m not open to it. I would say legal status.”

When asked what he would do with the so-called DREAMers, Trump responded, “We’re going to do something. I’ve been giving it so much thought, you know you have a….on a humanitarian basis, you have a lot of deep thought going into this, believe me. I actually have a big heart….I mean, a lot of people don’t understand that, but the DREAMers, it’s a tough situation, we’re going to do something, and one of the things we’re going to do is expedite — when somebody’s terrific, we want them back here, but they have to be legally….”

The words “flash in the pan” are beginning to take on new meaning.

19 Responses to Trump retreats from his stance on illegal invasion

  1. Sparky Smith says:

    Poor ole Donald just wants to be loved,— by everyone apparently!

  2. azgary says:

    so far trump is the only politician I have heard actually use the word deport, the others have had years of avoiding the “D” eport word, so I am willing to give him a minute to clarify.

    its fine to hold trump the candidates feet to the fire, by why not do it for all who are choosing illegals over American citizens.

    NOTHING is worse than hypocrisy.

    you describe trump as “flash in the pan” yet you consistently have supported and endorsed az congressmen who openly call for mass legalization of foreign invaders AND HAVE DONE SO FOR YEARS, knowing full well the harm they bring to American citizens and will eventually be voting democrat.

    more “lesser of two evils” drivel?

    why not refer to salmon gosar and schweikert as flashes in the pan and compare their ramblings (not to mention opeds) as indistinguishable from democrats?

    Et tu, Brute?

    they have actually had the power to do something for citizens but consistently act for the chambers of commerce instead of voters and repeatedly lie regarding amnesty. pot meet kettle.

    weak sauce here sraz

    • azgary says:

      actually I was remiss here in only singling out salmon, gosar and schweikert as indistinguishable from democrats regarding amnesty, it in reality is the vast majority of gop/rnc politicians and hierarchy.
      hell, az’s own bruce ash wrote/sponsored the republican partys amnesty platform plank:
      “RESOLVED, that the Republican National Committee calls upon the President and Congress to create a new class of work permit that allows illegal immigrants who were brought into our country as minor children, and who have not violated any other laws of the U.S. to come forward and register and be allowed to remain and work in the U. S. This new class of legal worker permit holders will not result in an application for citizenship or to petition citizenship for family members. The work permit will require renewal every five (5) years and will require proof of employment or attendance in school during that period; and, be it finally
      RESOLVED, that the Republican National Committee calls upon the President and Congress to create a new work permit program that will allow foreign nationals who are currently in the country and have not violated any other laws of the U.S. to come forward and register and be allowed to remain and work in the
      U.S.”
      https://cdn.gop.com/docs/Resolution_in_Support_of_Secure_Borders_Economic_Growth_Prosperity_and_National_Immigration_Policy_Reform_LH.pdf

      at least with amnesty, the flood if immigrants both illegal and legal the democrats achieve something,they desire a permanent democrat voting majority.

      all republicans get out of it is cheap labor so American workers can be supplanted by foreigners both legal and illegal, while others have their wages driven down by the same.

      republicans are worse here than democrats, they are destroying their own supporters and their party for short term power and lobbyist bribes

    • Charlie Conservative says:

      Could you be more specific, azgary? If memory serves me correctly, seeingredaz has consistently exposed the AZ representatives who have flipped-flopped on the illegal alien invasion. And that includes all U.S. Senators from AZ and all U.S. Representatives from AZ. They are all a bunch of Flakes. But I think you may be thinking of another blog with your accusation.

    • State Delegate says:

      Who’s peddling “weak sauce” here? Not the SRAZ I read each day. Were you troubled that Trump hauled out that old reliable amnesty canard, “There are jobs that a lot of people (Americans) don’t want to do,” as he promoted amnesty?
      What about his slick idea of deporting all illegals and then letting the “good ones” re-enter? Does that sound rational to you? How would it be accomplished? Would you, azgary, volunteer to weed out the “good ones”?

      Let’s not forget that Donald Trump was a strong supporter of Hillary’s and has given substantial campaign contributions to Democrats. He was a Democrat himself when it suited him.

      Over the years, Trump has donated to liberals Ted Kennedy, Frank Lautenberg, Charles Schumer, Joe Biden, Charlie Rangel, John Kerry, Tom Daschle, The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Kirsten Gillibrand, Rahm Emanuel, and Harry Reid, among them. He gave to some Republicans also. Count John McCain, if you consider the RINO a Republican.
      There’s plenty more to see here on Open Secrets:
      http://www.opensecrets.org/usearch/?q=Donald+Trump+contributions&cx=010677907462955562473%3Anlldkv0jvam&cof=FORID%3A11

  3. PV PC says:

    Trump shows himself as yet another disappointing politician. The only difference between him and the vast majority here in Arizona is that his revolting spew came before the election. The rest of them were more guarded and hid their amnesty bents until after the ballots were counted and they were safely reelected. McCain was going to build the dang fence, Kyl cut television ads with Arizona Sheriffs of both parties, swearing to secure the border. Squishy Flake so frustrated the editorial board at the Arizona Republic with his pre-election posturing that they called his views “disappointing.” They need not have bothered. He reverted back to his amnesty position the day after the election, even joining McCain’s Gang of 8. Three of AZ’s Congressmen, Gosar, Salmon and Schweikert co-authored a BS article loaded with amnesty doubletalk that ran in the same newspaper. There are no statesmen. There are no heroes. There are no honest brokers. We are screwed by a load of elected double talking swindlers. Just add one more to the list.

  4. ZOO says:

    Well, that didn’t take long. The pro-alien media changes its tactics and all the troops about-face on a dime.

    When Trump was in Laredo a couple of weeks ago, the Mex media ask him ‘what will you do about the 11 million ‘undocumented immigrants?’ Trump responded ‘we will secure the border first and we will have plenty of time to talk about it.’

    The GOPe and the MEDIAms have been going out of their minds trying to stop Trump’s momentum. They finally realized they cannot accept statements like he made in Laredo, and they must full court press him into saying he will deport every illegal alien still breathing after he is elected. Then they can trash him on that position for the next 18 months. That’s the ticket!

    Odd that SRAZ jumped right on Trump today when they vowed ’til death do us part’ loyalty to last place finisher Frank Riggs in the gubernatorial primary. Riggs, desperate for any attention at all, attacked candidate Andrew Thomas in a debate for using data from the Center For Immigration Studies stating that all new job growth since 2000 had gone to immigrants.

    Riggs’ response? ‘….That is the kind of absurd assertion that distorts the debate. You gotta be honest with voters…you cannot speak down to them…you gotta speak up to them…you can’t demean their intelligence…that is actually an absurd assertion…’

    So Riggs dismissed Thomas and the Center For Immigration Studies
    as ‘absurd’ and ‘speaking down to voters.’ SRAZ, who has featured data from the CFIS multiple times over the years (actually twice here in the last 10 days) didn’t blink or waiver in their support for the carpetbagger Riggs after this idiotic outburst – arguably directed at SRAZ too.

    Trump is committed to sealing the border, something no one else will dare even utter. The fair weather brief-bunchers and their pals in the Treason Lobby want all of Trump’s first term plans laid out in advance – 18 months before the election. You might sum it up with “How To Stop The Wall’ – or – hook, line, and sinker.

    • State Delegate says:

      It’s not the “pro-alien media” this time, but Trump himself that is doing the “about-face.”
      Trump, a successful billionaire developer, is not used to having his opinions questioned, so his answers are not always well reasoned as they relate to politics. He shoots from the hip and this time missed the mark badly enough to irretrievably damage his credibility. I was in attendance when he appeared at the Phx Convention Center and liked what he had to say. But the adulation is going to his head, which at times appears to be empty, as with the foolish comments regarding illegals that are substantiated here in the Powerline and Breitbart reports. These are conservatives who are doing a double take, not liberals.

      • ZOO says:

        Ben Shapiro at Breitbart is a staunch Jeb Bush supporter, even stating ‘he will be the nominee.’ Suck it up, rinse, and spit.

    • LD 23 PC says:

      Unlike liberal Democrats who get and regurgitate their daily talking points slop, conservatives think for themselves. We don’t all agree on every candidate because we don’t march in lockstep. At this point with the election over a year awaywe are sorting the candidates out one from the other, that’s a plus, not a minus.

    • ZOO says:

      By all means, sort away. The ballot is eons away and the process (or fix) is up and running. I simply find it odd that in these few months I haven’t seen anyone necessarily attacking (or praising) Trump, but in a scandal rag-minute several come sweeping in from the tree tops. How ‘coincidental’ that those patriots who have stood the tallest against the invasion and destruction of our country are so easily taken down – not by Democrats – but by “conservatives.”

      Anything and everything that has and will be thrown at the imperfect candidate Trump is coming primarily from the biggest racketeers in politics, the establishment GOP and “The Chamber.” We have spent years here talking about them and those who have challenged their cheap-labor ways – falling victim to their treachery. Now they have their own prime time show and just about everybody is watching.

      Those who tout that illegal immigration and the occupation of America is not THE issue do so at their own peril. In the current field of Republican presidential candidates, vetting on that issue is not brain surgery. Should Trump walk away or be badgered out – let’s just say it’s too early to anticipate the repercussions.

  5. Conservative Since Birth says:

    The debate next week should make or break Trump.

    I had no idea Ben Shapiro is a staunch Jeb! supporter. I’d like to hear why from him.

  6. East Valley PC says:

    Now we read that Common Core advocate Jeb is being counseled by strategists not to engage with Trump during the debate, to appear statesmanlike and show humor by chuckling at whatever Trump has to say, thereby demeaning him.

    Jeb is actually the worst of the pack when it comes to illegals. His personal history makes that clear. The Bushes would be speaking Spanish in the White House as they have always done at home. His wife, the great Parisian shopper who spends tens of thousands on clothes and jewelry at a whack, and lies about it to US Custom’s officials, only became a citizen when her father-in-law Poppy Bush ran for president. She was reportedly so upset about giving up her Mexican citizenship she had to pray about it…not to God (who she probably fears is a conservative), but to a saint…to give her the strength to become a US citizen. Puhleezze.

  7. Retired in Mesa says:

    Didn’t take you guys long to turn on Trump. He’ll be a tough act to follow.

    • Frankly Speaking says:

       If you consider it to be “turning on Trump” for being dissatisfied with his asinine responses on the massive problem of illegal aliens faced by the United States of America, then I plead guilty. Trump can’t have it both ways. He has “expedited” enough for my tastes. I want a non-waffler who stays on message and not one who tells me how big his heart is when it comes to illegals. How could you watch that interview and still think his views are consistent?

  8. Gary Darby says:

    I don’t get it
    For years we’ve been looking for a conservative who not only walks the walk but talks the talk. And also is deaf to political correctness. ALL Conservatives should be on board with him instead of just waiting for him to fall.

  9. Conservative Since Birth says:

    How in the world are we supposed to vote “Republican” with ‘leaders’ in complete disagreement with us?

    No Congressional GOP Leaders Will Support Reducing Immigration

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/31/no-congressional-gop-leaders-will-support-reducing-immigration/

  10. Clair Van Steenwyk says:

    Believe the Conservatives are being set up to support what they thought was a Strong Candidate for Secure Borders and Deportation, along with repeal Obama Care and now on Fox Cashing In says he has a better plan to take care of all of us and the conservatives need to be more compassionate as he is, so guess maybe it’s Trump Care. Many have bought in and now when it’s pointed out I’m told I don’t understand and besides as he said lots of Americans don’t want the low paying jobs anyway, sound familiar to anyone. I believe he’ll get the job done and then drop out and endorse someone else who won’t bend as much but will still bend and the Lessor of Two Evils will continue to Reign in the RINO Party Leadership, which is what this is all about. God Bless You; Van