“Repeal and replace”: Conservative critics hang tight & UPDATE

After a late session and heavy lobbying by the White House and GOP leaders, there is still no consensus on the repeal and replacement of ObamaCare.

Fox News reports Speaker Paul Ryan’s fast tracked replacement plan was in peril early this morning after lengthy leadership and committee meetings failed to produce an agreement that would bolster support among conservative members, who say it doesn’t go far enough to undo ObamaCare.

While the House Rules Committee was in session Wednesday Ryan was meeting with more prone to acquiesce  Republicans from Pennsylvania, Illinois, Maine and New York as well as members of leadership, trying to gin up support for what is widely considered to be his plan.

The conservative Freedom Caucus is not on board with the plan. “I’m confident that we have still enough concerns that a vote of 216 votes in the House would not happen today,” said Rep. Mark Meadows, (R-N.C.) the Freedom Caucus chairman. Current (2017) members of the group can be seen here. Three Arizonans are on the list — U.S. Reps. Trent Franks (CD-8), Paul Gosar (CD-4) and David Schweikert (CD-6).

The latest news in advance of the vote indicates President Trump wants unwavering support for the replacement health care bill which was scheduled for a vote today. The deadline could be pushed back since Pres. Trump has scheduled an 11:30 a.m. (ET) — 8:30 a.m. AZ Time, meeting with members of the House Freedom Caucus at the White House.

Thursday evening, March 23, 2017:

Testy Trump issues ultimatum on health care vote

Wants vote Friday or else…..

With conservative Republicans not falling in line behind House Speaker Paul Ryan’s supposed “Repeal and Replacement” of Obamacare, Pres. Trump has issued an ultimatum: If he doesn’t get the vote to authorize what many referred to as “Obamacare Lite” — now dubbed “RyanCare,“ he will move on to other issues, such as border security, tax reform and trade. leaving in place the mess he promised to make a priory.

“For seven and a half years, we have been promising to repeal and replace this broken law because it is collapsing and failing families,” Ryan told reporters Thursday evening. “And tomorrow (Friday) we are proceeding.”

Arizona’s CD 8 Rep. Trent Franks, a member of the conservative House Freedom Caucus is not supportive of the plan in its current form. He gave this reasoned opinion:

“I always think if there’s any change whatsoever that we can make the bill better than we should never stop negotiations,” he said. “Now there is a time that those negotiations should stop, but let that not be arbitrary let that be on the timetable itself.”

This ad, urging rejection of “RyanCare,“ is an example of a series underwritten by Club For Growth urging several House members who are willing to yield on this crucial matter to rethink their positions.

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21 Responses to “Repeal and replace”: Conservative critics hang tight & UPDATE

  1. Patriot Dad says:

    President Trump should step back and realize that pressuring conservatives to pass what many consider Obamacare lite benefits no one. Trusting Paul Ryan is a fool’s errand. This revised health care plan needs more time than it’s been given. It needs to be done right and with a consensus. I’m a Trump supporter, and distrust Paul Ryan who I believe it attempting to undermine him.

    • Conservative Since Birth says:

      Wow – do I ever agree with you. I read that if this doesn’t get done fast (and the way establishment Ryan wants it), Trump won’t get his tax cuts. Paul Ryan is a committed open borders globalist – like Obama. “Repeal” will not happen. I’m with Mark Meadows & Company. I hope they stand their ground. We need to get rid of any traces of Obamacare and replace it with something market driven and the government OUT. This is a chance of a lifetime for Trump. I hope he takes it. Otherwise, there will be some very unhappy campers to see Paul Ryan win this.

  2. Maggie says:

    I read this morning that retribution awaits conservatives who aren’t supporting the Ryan plan. These House members were elected by their constituents to do the job they are doing. I hope for all the best for our president, but demanding blind allegiance to a rammed through bill makes no sense. I resent the tactics I’ve read are being used. I hope they aren’t true.

  3. Saguaro Sam says:

    Hard to believe that Trump has taken the bait from Paul Lyin Ryan.

    In the Bible, the man with the ugly soul and hateful ways was Saul, and then after meeting Jesus he changed his ways and his name to become Paul.

    Paul Ryan needs to be called Saul.

    Meanwhile, take a look at the column posted yesterday afternoon by the British firecracker/journalist Katie Hopkins.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4340290/Truth-t-like-says-KATIE-HOPKINS.html

    Trump needs to fire his Secretary of Transportaion.
    After Maxine Waters again tweeted about impeaching Trump, the female Sec of Trans tweeted words of encouragement to Waters.

    • Conservative Since Birth says:

      Elaine Chao, Transportation Secretary, is the wife of Mitch McConnell. That is bad behavior on her part.

    • Hunter says:

      Trump does not support a bill to simply repeal Obamacare either. Trump wasn’t taking the bait, he was helping to put it on the hook.

  4. Capt. Marvel says:

    There is no way I can justify Pres. Trump going along with Paul Ryan, who most likely didn’t even vote for him. Ryan is all about Ryan. He was Mitt Romney’w “wunderkind” who was supposed to give power to that losing ticket. That definitely was not the case. Romney later made numerous trips to Arizona in support of John McAwful. None of them are worth a plug nickel as far as I’m concerned.

  5. Joseph Bickley, Sr. says:

    ObamaCare needs no replacement. It needs repeal so that the federal government backs away from any and all health care issues. My Constitution provides no such interference in citizens’ lives at any level. Back off Fed, back off.

    • East Valley Conservative says:

      The pigs have been at the trough since FDR and LBJ got them accustomed to nanny government. Obama put the finishing touches on the liberal entitlements. Every program that emboldens government, weakens the individual, but they don’t care as long as someone else is paying their way. The “free” programs are endless from medical care to school lunches and every single one is extended to illegals. How many people do you know who have other means of support, but are on “disability”? This is another too easily accessed scam, being paid for by young working families so that retirees with decent retirement plans can increase their bottom line. These same people complain that working mothers are stashing their kids in day care. It takes two salaries for many households to get by, so they can fund the scammers. I have a neighbor whose “disability” is gross obesity. Seriously. His doctor should put him on a calorie restricted diet, not give his approval for “free” money.

  6. Conservative Since Birth says:

    The latest: Report: Speaker Ryan to postpone AHCA Obamacare repeal vote – Red Alert Politics

    http://redalertpolitics.com/2017/03/23/report-speaker-ryan-postpone-ahca-obamacare-repeal-vote/

    The postponement of the House vote will be viewed as a huge blow to the White House, who put all their eggs into this basket. But, it opens up the possibility of further negotiations to give the House Freedom Caucus what they want, which is a full repeal of Obamacare.

    For now, President Trump will have to go back to the negotiating table and secure the remaining votes needed before Friday morning’s rescheduled vote.

  7. Hunter says:

    Where is AZGARY to explain how Trump is not involved with threatening Republicans who want to actually repeal Obamacare instead of modify it into RINOcare?

  8. Conservative Since Birth says:

    Conservatives Angry That Trump Healthcare Bill Could Cover Illegals (This sounds like Paul Ryan)
    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/health-care/item/25673-conservatives-angry-that-trump-health-care-bill-could-cover-illegals

    The latest disappointment involves the removal of a provision intended to stop illegal immigrants from receiving health insurance coverage from the bill. The change has made an already widely unpopular bill even more so.

  9. Kathy says:

    what the heck!!! Republicans have had 7 years to repeal Obamacare!!!!!!! They said give us us the House, Senate & Presidency – they have all 3, now what is the excuse!!

    Why replace – Govt needs to get the heck out of our health!!!!! It’s not healthcare, it’s about control. Free market is the way – gov’t needs to get out of our way!!!! Maybe if these politicians would actually WORK 40 hrs a week the repeal would be done. If the politicians HAD to live under the same laws as We the People things would be different. But oh no they pass laws for us – not them! Their healthcare is cadillac and we pay for it!

    Outrageous!!!!

  10. Dennis O'Brien says:

    What’s the rush? Government run health care is a disaster. Trump and Ryan need to take their time and get it right. There won’t be another opportunity for a do over. I distrust Ryan and am disappointed in Trump for falling in line with this scheme that leaves a lot out and too much in. What happened to the plan to “repeal” Obamacare and then “replace” it?

    • Hunter says:

      Trump never wanted to repeal Obamacare. He just wanted to fix it to make it great again. Apparently, Ryan feels the same way. Unfortunately, so do a lot of Republican members of Congress.

      If Ryan won’t bring up a simple repeal bill, conservatives should move to vacate the leadership and force a new vote for Speaker. The conservatives should all vote for Mark Meadows and deny Ryan election as Speaker (assuming Democrats all vote for Pelosi and none abstain). Republican Congressmen owe it to their constituents to have a simple up or down vote on a simple Obamacare repeal bill.

  11. Jakesez says:

    We need to rid ourselves of the republican establishment. If we have to throw out the baby to get rid of the dirty water – so be it.

  12. MacBeth says:

    This is deja vu all over again….

  13. Clementine says:

    According to the news I’ve read this morning, President Trump has told several close associates that he regrets going along with Paul Ryan’s plan to push a health care overhaul before unveiling a tax cut proposal—which he views as more politically palatable to Republicans.

    What he should regret is going along with Ryan on anything. Paul Ryan is no fan of Trump’s and wants the presidency so badly it shows in his eyes. He’ll do whatever he can to weaken Trump, and Trump should be aware of that fact.

    You can’t trust snakes.

    • Hunter says:

      Trump doesn’t support a simple repeal bill either. Nor does he support free market reforms for the Health Care industry. With Obamacare, Trump is part of the problem – not the solution. No bill pertaining to Obamacare should be passed except to repeal it. Once it is repealed, then work can begin on laws to further reduce Federal involvement and regulation in the health care industry which have distorted the market in the first place. Other laws can be passed allowing more interstate commerce in health insurance to help reduce the stifling effect of state insurance company regulations. More freedom and use of free markets will produce lower costs and better choices. Federal programs produce just the opposite.