Maricopa County GOP leaders censure Tobin & Pierce

Voting privileges revoked for PC’s taking unprincipled action

Last night the Executive Guidance Committee (EGC) of the Maricopa County Republican Committee took on ineffective and disappointingly left-leaning Republican Party leadership with this resolution:

“Be it resolved that due to their lack of support of key Republican principles by withholding key legislation and the misuse of the Republican Victory Fund, the Maricopa County Republican Committee (MCRC) does not support the reelection of Andy Tobin as Speaker of the House or Steve Pierce as Senate President.”

Maricopa County is the second Republican county leadership group to take unprecedented strong action against Tobin and Pierce — with a 23 – 5 vote. Earlier this week, the Pinal County Republicans unanimously took similar action.

Rob Haney, chairman of the Maricopa County Republican Party said, “The action taken reflects the deep frustration and disappointment expressed by the grassroots precinct committeemen through their representatives on the EGC in the failure of Speaker Tobin and President Pierce to support key conservative legislation and the misuse of campaign funds in primary legislative races.”

Five EGC members who voted in opposition to the resolution included four District Chairmen, Scott O’Connor (LD 28), Rhonda King (LD-4), Rene Lopez (LD-17), Lisa Gray (LD-21), and first Vice Chairman of the EGC Diane Ortiz-Parsons.

Additionally, three elected Precinct Committeemen, Tom Chapman and Marion “Mac” Magruder of LD-28, and Cati Stokes (LD-13) lost their internal party voting privileges for publicly endorsing Democrats or Libertarians in this election cycle. The vote passed 27 to 1 with District 28 Chairman Scott O’Connor as the sole vote in opposition to the action, a role in which he apparently revels. Maricopa County GOP bylaws specifically dictate this action in such circumstances. This happened previously when former Attorney General and longtime RINO Grant Woods’ privileges were removed for his public endorsement of a liberal Democrat in the Arizona AG’s race.

In a message to EGC members, Chairman Haney wrote, “Not only is this action contrary to the purpose for which Party designated Precinct Committeemen were established by AZ Statutes, but it calls into question why anyone would seek and hold the position of Republican Precinct Committeeman while at the same time working to defeat Republican Candidates. Why would they not feel ethically bound to resign their position as Precinct Committeemen? They could still be a registered Republican and work to defeat Republican candidates.”

Read his full statement here

56 Responses to Maricopa County GOP leaders censure Tobin & Pierce

  1. Rick says:

    WOW!! It is great news to know that the real republicans are taking an active role in holding legislative leadership accountable.

    Tobin and Pierce are two of the most despicable legislative leaders since Randall Gnant or Burton Barr. The news is that they are going to run as a team for Governor and Secretary of State.

    Pierce and Tobin need to have their feathers plucked now so we do not have to deal them in two years. Legislators who vote for them next week should turn in their conservative credentials.

    • Yavapai Al says:

      Tobin and Pierce running for Governor and Secretary of State? If either of them possessed an iota of ethics, they’d be running for the hills….

      If they do run, it should be as Democrats. I’m a conservative Republican who lives in their district and wouldn’t support either of them for dog catcher. They sure don’t represent me.

  2. ZOO says:

    District 28 Chairman Scott O’Connor needs to be uninstalled. No doubt as part of his agenda, he has a stiff for LD 28 Senate candidate Adam Driggs, the bill-killing immigration lawyer with mucho conflicto of interesto and questionable-at-best, business lobbyist-laiden Kate Brophy McGee, candidate for the House. You will find much more information on Tobin & Pierce at S.H.I.E.L.D. At least this may get Pierce out of the Senate President chair. And to think the libtards were having miscarriages upon Pierce’s initial voyage as President, because his name was “Pierce.”

    • Arizona Conservative Guy says:

      Another incisive comment, ZOO, and one loaded with honest appraisals. We need a thorough housecleaning to get rid of this RINO element in the Republican Party. The Democrats would love them.

    • Hagar says:

      You have it exactly right. Pierce and Tobin have used funds donated to elect Republicans over Democrats by selectively supporting only those who will re-elect them Senate and House leaders. Here’s the S.H.I.E.L.D. link for all the slimy details:

      http://armorandshield.blogspot.com/2012/10/republican-victory-fundrepublican-house.html

      They are so brazen that they are giving to safe Senate candidates Yee (LD 6) and Yarborough (LD 17) and snubbing challenged Republican candidates like Ortiz (LD 8) and Antenori (LD 10).

      I can’t recall two more despicable politicians who claim to be Republicans.

  3. 1776 says:

    Thank you Rick. It became apparent last night, from folks in the know, that Tobin, a Republican, is nonetheless owned by the Unions. In addition to killing legislation that would have done much to curb the organized looting of taxpayers’ wallets, Tobin killed other important conservative legislation in retaliation for well deserved criticism. Legislators intimidated into re-electing him as Speaker may as well turn in their conservative credentials, they will have already turned in their testicles and without both items in working order they are worthless.

  4. John Q says:

    The restoration of America begins at home – that is in every precinct across the state and nation. It is past time to notify the “leaders” that the Precinct Committeemen are more than non-paid volunteers at their beck and call.

    We should all implement the mantra of Clint Eastwood regarding the relative authority within the system. The elected officials are our employees and when they fail to do the job, it is time to replace them for the overall good.

    Steve Smith and Andy Biggs are among the best examples of true patriotic leaders. Contact EVERY Republican candidate running for the legislature and assure them that the grass roots will support them in doing the responsible thing.

    Biggs and Smith – the Conservative Arizona Legislative Team

  5. eubykdisop says:

    At last! Some internal discipline!

  6. Janelle says:

    Andy and Steve to replace Steve and Andy. It is interesting that the polar opposites have the same first names – just in the opposite chamber.

    Go BIGGS and SMITH!!

  7. eubykdisop says:

    This is off topic but significant!

    “Claims increase of machines switching votes in Ohio, other battlegrounds”

    “By Eric Shawn
    Published November 02, 2012
    FoxNews.com”

    “Imagine going to vote for your presidential candidate and pushing the button on a touch-screen voting machine — but the “X” marks his opponent instead.”

    “That is what some voters in Nevada, North Carolina, Texas and Ohio have reported.”

    “Fox News has received several complaints from voters who say they voted on touch-screen voting machines — only when they tried to select Mitt Romney, the machine indicated they had chosen President Obama. The voters in question realized the error and were able to cast ballots for their actual choice.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/11/02/claims-increasing-switched-votes-in-ohio/

  8. Scott O'Connor says:

    Per Maricopa County Attorney Opinion 2010-003, effective 10/10/2010, “precinct committemen are elected pursuant to statute, but are officers of their party, not public officials. Arizona law thus creates certain voting rights for elected precinct committeemen at the county and state committee levels. A party bylaw that would revoke these voting privileges is inconsistent with the state statutes creating those voting privileges.”

    Until that opinion is revoked or superceded by a contrary opinion, the County Party may not revoke voting privileges of etected PC’s. Hence, I voted no.

    Further, in the case of LD 28, I know both gentlemen to have been lifelong Republicans who have worked for the Party and its principles for over 40 years each, including district chairmanships, campaign chairmanships, etc., along the way, in addition to extensive community involvement. They deserve a certain amount of deference for their histories, not the derision they got for finding a particular candidate so controversial as to lose their support.

    Finally, being coerced to goosestep in line with Party dogma on every single candidate in every race reminds me more of National Socialist Party practices than the true Republican Party, which was founded on principles of liberty and freedom.

    I get ridiculed for having a different point of view on many EGC issues. If everyone is supposed to share the exact same opinion on every issue, why is it even necessary to have a meeting, and what’s the point of a discussion? I thought that enlightened political activists enjoyed debating the issues, not merely silencing dissent.

    • Jim says:

      Ah, did you really get ridiculed? Did someone say nana nana nana? Or did they actually have the audacity to say that poor little Scott was clueless about an issue? Maybe you should have stomped your feet and held your breath. That would have taught them a lesson.

    • Hagar says:

      Only the kool-aid drinking LD 28 chair would support Magruder who owns McDonalds franchises and led the fight against SB 1070. Hmmm. Now why would a McDonalds owner do that?

      BTW, it’s “superseded.”

    • eubykdisop says:

      Sharing the “exact same opinion on every issue” is what constitutes a political party.

      The point is NOT to enjoy debating issues, the point is implmenting a Conservative agenda.

      No one is silencing dissent. They are calling for unified ACTION! Dissent all you want but DO the right thing!

      An army is effective because of concerted action. If each soldier does his own thing, the army loses the battle!

      • shocblog says:

        August 20, 2012: “As I said yesterday, Todd Akin’s comments were offensive and wrong and he should very seriously consider what course would be in the best interest of our country,” Romney said in a statement. “Today, his fellow Missourians urged him to step aside, and I think he should accept their counsel and exit the Senate race.”

        Following eubykdisop’s protocol, if Mitt Romney is elected on Tuesday, we should take away his bill signing and veto privileges for not supporting Mr. Akin’s candidacy.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Nice try, shocblog, but no cigar, LOL!

        The argument you are seeking to make is absolutely classic Liberal slight of hand and isn’t fooling anyone! The call was Akin’s and no one else’s. He didn’t get any help at all from the Republican “establishment” and so owes no one anything. By your “logic”, if a Republican called for Romney to step down he should do so! Furthermore, “if/then” hypotheticals are the hallmark of disingenuous Liberal arguments. Here’s an example:

        Conservative: “Obama has ordered the DOJ to not defend DOMA in court.”

        Liberal: “IF Congress passed and the president signed a law allowing adults to have sex with minors would you THEN expect the DOJ to defend it in court?”

        Classic Liberal “if/then” hypothetical tripe, LOL!

        Have a nice day, shocblog! :-)

      • Frankly Speaking says:

        Shocblog,
        You sound like a true apologist for the left.

      • Richard Wayne says:

        Shocblog, You really need to either take your prescribed meds as scheduled or stop taking your unprescribed potions just before putting your irrational thoughts out on the public arena.

        To try to compare Romney’s words of counsel to a fellow candidate with the willful actions of party officials to submarine the election of a candidate they are mandated to support sounds like the same type of synapse dislocation that afflicts Scotty.

    • eubykdisop says:

      I might add, Scott, that the argument you are making defines the classic moral relativism of the Liberal left where there are no set principles and everything is amorphous and subject to being changed at any time. Sorry, no sale!

  9. Richard Wayne says:

    First of all, Scotty, you should check with your mama. A county attorney opinion is just that – an opinion. It is not law in any way shape or form.

    Second, as you already know, that opinion was written by the previous county attorney who was protecting himself and his RINO friends from intraparty sanctions for violating their responsibility to support the Party as the elected representative of that Party.

    Third, if we are to take your mistaken perception that a county attorney opinion is worth more than the paper it is written on, the current county attorney was the MCRC Attorney and advised the MCRC that they were well within their rights to take the above action. I know that it is not convenient for your argument, however, Rick the RINO’s thoughts and opinions have been rejected in their totality.

    Fourth, you may have known both men for many years, but, quoting the eloquent Joe Bastardi’s assessment of Al Gore’s conclusion re Hurricane Sandy, for you to postulate that both of these men have worked for the Party principles for any time at all is either incredibly stupid or incredibly deceptive.

    Fifth, no one is trying to take away your right to express yourself or take away your vote, however, when you vote to allow party leaders to work against the party and its candidates/elected officials, you should expect to be called on it.

    If you cannot take the heat for such actions without whining, perhaps you should leave the kitchen for a more qualified person.

  10. Ben F says:

    Further news: We have just been informed that the Navajo County Republican Executive Committee has unanimously endorsed the resolution to oppose the election of Tobin for Speaker and Pierce for President.

    And the beat goes on . . . . . . .

    I have been informed by unimpeachable sources that additional counties will take similar actions this weekend ! ! !

    • Blackbeard says:

      Great news out of Navajo County!! Lets hope the others meeting this weekend have the same type of results. Pierce and Tobin are major disappointments, and deserve nothing in the way of support from conservatives. The democrat party would love this duo, I don’t!

    • Hagar says:

      I have heard that the Navajo County Republican Executive Committee has not yet voted on the resolution although it has been circulated among its members.

  11. State Delegate says:

    As a native Phoenician, I’ve had years of involvement in the Arizona Republican party. Without a doubt, Rob Haney has been the finest, most knowledgeable and hardest working Maricopa County Chairman I have ever encountered. I hope he runs for state Chairman next. Tom Morrissey is clearly over his head as evidenced by the statewide meeting at Grand Canyon University when he lost control of the proceedings and then hid out for days afterward. The chaos was directly attributable to his inexperience.Rob Haney knows the rules and commands respect.

    • CD9 says:

      Both Rob and Marne Haney are GREAT Conservative Republican’s. They have the respect of 99% of us PC’s. The remaining are McLiars and Paulites, their way or the highway.

      I saw both over the weekend and they are going to start a new endeavor and I am hoping to help them if possible. But Party Chair, if not so grueling, would be wonderful, who else in this GOP would have the Conservative Condrentials and with Marne at his side and Tom Husband of course in there we would have a smooth running Party the State would be proud of. Recruitment would be up and running and the memerbship would grow by leaps and bounds.

      State Delegate, now you got me on a new kick, ROB HANEY PARTY CHAIR.

  12. eubykdisop says:

    This sort of treachery within the Republican Party is not limited to a local phenomenon!

    “National GOP establishment lavishly funding liberal homosexual activist Richard Tisei for Congress in Massachusetts.”

    “Has long record of outrageous activity.”

    “Is this a warning where the Republican Party will go in the next few years?”

    “POSTED: October 14, 2012”
    “The Republican establishment in Washington is pouring enormous amounts of money — over a million dollars — into Massachusetts to elect an aggressive, anti-family homosexual activist to Congress. ”

    “In Massachusetts, Richard Tisei is known as an openly “gay” liberal Republican politician who ran for Lt. Governor in 2010. Prior to that as a State Senator, among other things he worked to successfully block the people’s right to vote on the Marriage Amendment.”

    http://www.massresistance.org/docs/gen2/12d/tisei_nrcc/index.html

    Where does Tisei stand?

    Passionately supports same-sex “marriage”.

    Supports homosexual agenda in schools.

    Strongly supports abortion.

    As the linked article states: “Ladies and gentlemen, this is your 2012 National Republican party. Diversity is much more important than conservative principles. ”

    And while John Boehner is campaigining for Tisei in Massachusetts, the RNC refuses to give one cent to Akin in his run against McCaskill in Missouri!

    • Seen It All says:

      Shameful! And there are those who wonder why there is growth among the Independent and Party Not Designated segments.

      What you point out is rampant here. Homosexuals are working on taking over school boards and legislative districts to promote agenda politics. Old district 14 had two of their three state legislators with this front and center. All of the old District 15 legislators (prior to redistricting) are out-of-the-closet. Kyrsten Sinema, an admitted bi-sexual, is now running for Congress in CD 9. There are others with this agenda in the state legislature, and on our courts as well. Homosexuality is their front and center issue, not a personal and private matter.

      As far as Scott O’Connor, he is his mother’s son. She loved being the antagonistic “swing voter on the SCOTUS. Scott takes up the same mantle, always being the contrarian. One thing for sure. He is no conservative.

      • EVPC says:

        This was the coverage in today’s Capitol Times
        Senate leader defends Antenori
        A Senate leader today vigorously defended Sen. Frank Antenori from allegations he asked a Republican committee, through Senate President Steve Pierce, to spend money on his race.

        Doing so would amount to courting illegal coordination with an independent expenditure group. Arizona laws prohibit such coordination between a candidate and an independent group engaged in the candidate’s race.

        In a tersely-worded letter to the Republican Victory Fund, Senate Majority Leader Andy Biggs noted that Pierce has publicly insisted he has no control over how the committee spends its money.

        And since Pierce keeps a distance from the group’s internal decisions, it was “perfectly natural” for Antenori to ask for help from Pierce, his political leader, Biggs said.

        The majority leader was responding to Mike Liburdi, the attorney for the Republican Victory Fund, who rebuked Antenori for leaving voice messages for Pierce and supposedly asking that the Republican Victory Fund help him in his campaign against former legislator David Bradley, a Democrat.

        Pierce has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for the committee. He could not be reached for comment.

        Antenori told the Arizona Capitol Times he never asked for help from the Republican Victory Fund.

        He said he only asked Pierce for help in a general sense as a sign of GOP unity, and never once mentioned the independent expenditure committee.

        The controversy over the committee’s spending decisions has simmered since the primary campaign, when the group took sides in the Republican contest between Sen. Rich Crandall, R-Mesa, and Rep. John Fillmore, R-Apache Junction. The group attacked Fillmore, which dismayed several Republicans, including Antenori and Biggs.

        And the committee also decided to withhold help from Antenori and two other Republican candidates during the general election as Democratic groups spend hundreds of thousands of dollars against them.

        As Election Day approaches, a deep division within the Republican Party is on full display as two GOP county operatives have publicly chided Pierce over the committee’s decisions. That division is threatening to distract the party from its mission of extending its dominance at the state Capitol.

        In his letter to Liburdi, Biggs said if Pierce maintains a distant relationship with the Republican Victory Fund, then its lawyer is reading the law that prohibits coordination “too narrowly.”

        “Your conclusion is in error if you have misunderstood Senator Pierce’s role with the RVF (Republican Victory Fund),” Biggs said.

        But he said a more troubling interpretation of Liburdi’s assertion is that contrary to what Pierce has been saying, he is involved in determining how the committee spends its money.

        “In reality, your letter only makes sense if the president has been helping to coordinate spending,” Biggs said, adding that Liburdi’s position is “untenable.”

        “Your position is either that the president has not been wholly forthcoming to the caucus and to the public about his relationship with the RVF, or that you overstated your complaint against Senator Antenori,” Biggs added.

        Biggs also surmised that Liburdi was seeking a “political goal” by sending his letter to Antenori — and “leaking” it to the media — so close to the general election.

        By asserting so, Biggs effectively accused the lawyer of trying to sabotage Antenori’s electoral chances.

        Biggs ended his letter to Liburdi with a suggestion: The attorney should get back with his client and decide what is more appropriate, apologize to Antenori or apologize to the Senate Republican caucus.

        Liburdi said Biggs got it wrong. The letter to Antenori or its timing isn’t driven by any political motivations, he said, adding he’s a Republican and he shares the goal of electing as many GOP candidates as possible this November.

        The lawyer also rejected Biggs’ assertion that he’s reading the law too narrowly while maintaining that Pierce has no say in the Republican Victory Fund’s spending decisions.

        Liburdi said that instead, he is reading the law “expansively” since it is written very broadly. He noted the law says it is not an independent expenditure if coordination occurs between a candidate or the IE group, “including any officer, director, employee or agent.’’

        Pierce is not an officer or employee of the Republican Victory Fund, but as its chief fundraiser, he could plausibly be considered an “agent” of the group, according to Liburdi.

        “That’s a possibility, and that’s why the committee is trying to be as cautious as possible,” he said.

        Likewise, Pierce is also considered an agent of the group because he is its lawyer, and if a candidate asked him for help, that would be an attempt at illegal coordination, Liburdi said.

        He added that if the committee spent to help that candidate, the committee could be in trouble no matter how innocent the communication was.

        “Because Arizona’s law is written so broadly, that then pollutes the well, so to speak,” the lawyer said.

      • eubykdisop says:

        The thing is, Seen It All, that Boehner backed Dede Scozzafava in New York and she TOO supported homosexual “marriage” as well as government funded abortion! After dropping out of the race, she threw her support behind the Democrat candidate, who won, instead of behind the Conservative Party candidate!

        Boehner said that he “made a mistake” with Scozzafava. He’s making the SAME “mistake” again! IMHO, Boehner needs to go! “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me!”

        Yes, you’re right! There’s a lot going on locally with this as well and it seems that the local Republican party is pretending that it doesn’t see it instead of actively addressing it. I don’t think that they’re afraid of being called names, I think it’s that they want the money! That is what Judas was all about!

  13. CD9 says:

    Look at John McCain, he backed Napolitano for Governor instead of Matt Salmon, well not in the open it was some of his staff who started Republican’s for Nappy. I have seen this for years here, look at their comments for Carmona, the two Jackels singing his praises. And again what is happening with this election? We are being told this election is pivitol for our survival as a Nation, we need to elect all Republicans including Jeff McFlake. Give up our principles again, I did not and will not. I left it unmarked one snake or the other, great choice.

    • eubykdisop says:

      Choice: THAT is the issue, CD9!

      The Democrats have supported illegal alien amnesty. Republicans have opposed it. So the reason we are not being offered a choice is because Jeff Flake represents the Democrat position and NOT because Carmona represents the Republican position. That means that it is the Flake candidacy which is denying us a choice!

      • CD9 says:

        Horrible isn’t it? We had a good Conservative in the race again this season Wil Cardin, but this is the nastiest race primary and general I have seen since JD Hayworth ran up agaisnt the real leader of the movement to get LIBERAL Republican’s elected, McLiar.

      • MacBeth says:

        “Republicans have opposed” ilegal immigration? Apparently you didn’t get the “Comprehesive Immigration Reform” amnesty message offered so grandly by McCain and Kyl — who switched their positions for their elections and then back again after they were safely back in the senate. Jeff the Flake has done exactly the same thing. Sorry, but my nose holding days are over. You might recall that’s what Roberta McCain, John McCain’s mother told conservatives to do when he was running for president.

      • eubykdisop says:

        So true, CD9 and MacBeth! Yet Flake’s STRIVE Act illegal alien amnesty legislation, which contained in it the DREAM Act, was killed by House Republicans who saw to it that it never even came to a vote!

      • Arizona Conservative Guy says:

        Indeed! It was Republicans other than most of Arizona’s elected deceivers who quashed it. For the most part, Arizonans have had a rough go of it. Even John Shadegg was in collusion with the left on this issue. I recall him telling the New York Times that Arizonans who demanded a secure border were “xenophobic and intolerant.” If he ever resurrects himself and decides to run again, it will be without the support of many conservatives who are on to him.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Tell it like it is, Arizona Conservative Guy!

      • rj says:

        But Flake is offering the choice of a pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, pro-lower taxes, pro-smaller government, pro-less goverrnment regulation, pro-school choice, pro-strong military when compared to Carmona. Flake is very weak on the immigration issue, but, even there, Carmona is worse.

        I have fought against McCain, Flake, etc. since the 80’s – in fact, I fought against the Reagan Amnesty of 1986. In spite of Reagan’s bad judgment on that issue, I am sure glad it was not Carter or McGovern in the WH instead.

      • eubykdisop says:

        You are conveniently forgetting a few things, rj!

        First of all, Flake is a self-admitted liar. He broke his pledge to voters to serve only three terms. The irrefutable fact that he is a proven liar means that we can’t trust him or anything he says!

        Secondly, Flake was so out of line with his fellow House Republicans that he was actually removed from his assignment to the House Judiciary Committee by the Republican leadership for “bad behavior”.

        Flake is the bottom of the barrel. We could EASILY do MUCH better than Flake who is absolutely unacceptable as a “Republican” and who will NOT get my vote!

    • rj says:

      CD9 – To quote from another comment listed above, you are either incredibly stupid or incredibly deceptive. While it is true that not all Republicans do the right thing on all issues, for a conservative to enable the continued power of Harry Reid is simply criminal.

      I strongly supported Cardon and was not happy with the outcome in the Primary, however, Carmona, Reid, Obama will simply take our country off the cliff in every area – life, marriage, 1st amendment, 2nd amendment, etc, etc. Sometimes you have to choose the lesser of two evils. This is one of those times.

      • Janelle says:

        I have had to make that type of decision more than once. One time, I was confronted with a situation where I either drove my car into a ditch at 70mph or run headon into a Semi who was coming at me at approx 70 mph on my side of the road. The lesser of the two evils was the ditch and I survived.

        America will be hurtling headlong at a freight train if Obama, Carmona, Reid remain in office. America will not survive that wreck and we must do everything to avoid that wreck and Start now to prevent that type of decision in future years.

      • CD9 says:

        RJ, I am neither, but I will not give up my principles, like you. If you want to be a fool for the trio of Liars go right ahead, I will not. We need 50 Senators and the Veep, DUH, incase u too stupid to know we do not need 60 like the Liberal Republicans are going around trying to tell us.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Go get ’em, CD9! Yeah! Both barrels! :-)

  14. eubykdisop says:

    Let’s review the FACTS!

    Flake pledged to serve only three terms. That is part of what got him elected to Congress the first time. He broke that pledge saying flippantly, “I lied!” Flake is a self-admitted liar who cannot be trusted.

    Flake co-authored, with Chicago “progressive” Democrat Luis Gutierrez, the STRIVE Act illegal alien amnesty legislation which had within it, word for word, Harry Reid’s DREAM Act. So don’t talk to me about Flake being the antidote for Reid! Flake not only backed Reid’s agenda but actively sought to get the DREAM Act passed by Congress as part of his STRIVE Act!

    Lastly, don’t give me this garbage about “taking back the Senate”. The RNC has refused to give one cent to Akin who is running against McCaskill in Missouri. McCaskill is probably the most vulnerable Dem in the Senate.

    So the pro-Flake arguments to NOT stand up to scrutiny!

    • State Delegate says:

      eubykdisop:
      I agree!
      As much as I desire a GOP controlled senate, AZ has had two guys with R’s after their names who have partnered with and voted with Democrats on far too many issues to count and done so for decades. If I’m going to be taken to the cleaners I’d much rather have it done by a Democrat than a Republican charlatan, aptly named Flake.
      I’m a conservative who has gotten tired of having the wool pulled over my eyes at election time, only to have the con game exposed after they are safely back in office. Worst of all, senate terms are SIX YEARS long!! There is no accountability.

  15. ZOO says:

    Oh God! The humanity! Falling for the ploy of elect Flake or surrender the Senate means I can reach into your Halloween sack, thump it, and make you think I dropped candy. It also works well for selling used cars.

    The Republican congressional committee also tells you that if you don’t elect Flake, Carmona, Reid, and Obama will have a three-way in the chamber restroom.

    So they are saying Romney is going to lose? Voting for Flake will ensure a Romney win.

    Talking about incredibly stupid, I believe you could be robbed on a web blog.

  16. eubykdisop says:

    Hey, zoo! It’s me, CA, if you haven’t guessed!

    Right on, zoo! The only difference between Flake and a Harry Reid Democrat is that Flake will wait until the critical moment to drop his sheep costume and vote like a Democrat wolf! It’s dumping Obama which will be the game changer!

    • ZOO says:

      Hey CA! The desperation of the Flake campaign has gotten ridiculous, and even more so when you see people like “rj” and “Janelle” swallowing it whole. It just proves the old adage: you can fool some of the people all of the time.

      • eubykdisop says:

        Hey, hey, hey! Nice to be standing back to back again fighting off the Liberals, Old Chum! Let’s give ’em hell, like we always do! :-)

      • ZOO says:

        Right on! This is a great site, you can learn so much for SRA and the regular participants; and when libs land here they walk into a buzz saw. Glad you’re here!

      • eubykdisop says:

        Thanks, zoo! A lot better and a LOT more Conservative here than over at that “other place”, LOL!

  17. CD9 says:

    I keep reading these post, I am so honored to be among the “Greatest Conservatives”. (A play on words, lol.) But Seeing Red, Your followers have warmed my heart and made me feel there is hope for us and this election.

  18. eubykdisop says:

    If we don’t prevail, we’ll be back at it the next day. He who never surrenders can never be defeated!